McCormick Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Aw man. Love Maxi. Not many players in the world can put the fear of god into elite full-backs like he can, when he’s in full flow. You could see him trying to change his game for Howe too (with noticeable improvements in his decision-making), so it’s not like he hasn’t bought in to what we were trying to do. Seems to get a lot more stick than previous mercurial wingers who’ve played for us as well. With our crowd, it doesn’t take much for the groans to start, as if everything he did had to be magic. Weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, STM said: Barnes the better player, so makes sense. Disagree but that’s fine and if he is it’s not by much. I’d be on board if we were selling him to fund a Chiesa or partly towards the Napoli boy but selling him just to bring in Barnes is meh to me would rather just keep maxi Edited July 16, 2023 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Shame Miggy got a new deal. 1 year left and would have attracted some interest this summer based on those two unreal months. Much, much rather sell him than Maxi. Can see why Maxi is being sacrifised mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, gdm said: Selling maxi to be able to buy Barnes If you want more end product, it makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: If you want more end product, it makes sense. Maxi has laid chances on a plate time and time again which but for poor finishing would have been assists thats not really his fault. Even yesterday he should have about 4 assists but ended up with 1 because of poor finishing. Could add more goals but he hasn’t been terrible in front of goal. He also gets us up the pitch in seconds Edited July 16, 2023 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, gdm said: Selling maxi to be able to buy Barnes Have you seen Barnes' finishing off either foot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, gdm said: Disagree but that’s fine and if he is it’s not by much. I’d be on board if we were selling him to fund a Chiesa or partly towards the Napoli boy but selling him just to bring in Barnes is meh to me would rather just keep maxi I'd prefer to have someone actually makes the pitch, rather than sending cryptic messages every other week on social media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, STM said: I'd prefer to have someone actually makes the pitch, rather than sending cryptic messages every other week on social media. Well aye fitness is an issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I think Maxi's end product is massively underrated but he's a far way off Barnes like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, El Prontonise said: Selling him would be a bad move imo. Agree, would much rather keep him than getting Barnes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I’ll still be disappointed if we sell him, but that disappointment will be somewhat mitigated if he goes to Saudi, rather than another Premier League team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, McCormick said: Aw man. Love Maxi. Not many players in the world can put the fear of god into elite full-backs like he can, when he’s in full flow. You could see him trying to change his game for Howe too (with noticeable improvements in his decision-making), so it’s not like he hasn’t bought in to what we were trying to do. Seems to get a lot more stick than previous mercurial wingers who’ve played for us as well. With our crowd, it doesn’t take much for the groans to start, as if everything he did had to be magic. Weird. Yesterday I read the plaudits for Anderson getting a goal and assist. Maxi did the same and more, had Lewis,Anderson, and others finished their chances, he'd have had 3 if not four assists and his goal. But, nobody was bothered, just talk of lets sell our best players still, it's mental. If anything we should be looking to offload all the deadwood first, and as the stronger players move down the pecking order it strengthens your squad overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, mighty__mag said: Yesterday I read the plaudits for Anderson getting a goal and assist. Maxi did the same and more, had Lewis,Anderson, and others finished their chances, he'd have had 3 if not four assists and his goal. But, nobody was bothered, just talk of lets sell our best players still, it's mental. If anything we should be looking to offload all the deadwood first, and as the stronger players move down the pecking order it strengthens your squad overall. We won't get ANY money for this bit though. You know, the thing we need to be able to manoeuvre in the transfer market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, McCormick said: Seems to get a lot more stick than previous mercurial wingers who’ve played for us as well. With our crowd, it doesn’t take much for the groans to start, as if everything he did had to be magic. Weird. I don't think that's right. I'd say Robert got less love, for example. I find it freakish how we keep ending up in the same relationship with French left wingers. Edited July 16, 2023 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: If anything we should be looking to offload all the deadwood first, and as the stronger players move down the pecking order it strengthens your squad overall. Agree with what you've said but this part in particular is where we are scuppered. We can't shift our deadwood for anything like a reasonable fee so we can't generate enough money to improve the squad without fouling ffp. I think there are going to be some unpopular/unlikely sales as we go on to help further the squad. Can't say selling maxi would be my first choice like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Yesterday I read the plaudits for Anderson getting a goal and assist. Maxi did the same and more, had Lewis,Anderson, and others finished their chances, he'd have had 3 if not four assists and his goal. But, nobody was bothered, just talk of lets sell our best players still, it's mental. If anything we should be looking to offload all the deadwood first, and as the stronger players move down the pecking order it strengthens your squad overall. Players like ASM are just as likely to be moved on with the FFP regs. 20 minutes ago, McCormick said: Aw man. Love Maxi. Not many players in the world can put the fear of god into elite full-backs like he can, when he’s in full flow. You could see him trying to change his game for Howe too (with noticeable improvements in his decision-making), so it’s not like he hasn’t bought in to what we were trying to do. Seems to get a lot more stick than previous mercurial wingers who’ve played for us as well. With our crowd, it doesn’t take much for the groans to start, as if everything he did had to be magic. Weird. Ginola, Robert and HBA all had the same despite all being better players than ASM. The bloke who sat behind me used to get apoplectic at Robert, usually for absolutely no good reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 80 said: I don't think that's right. I'd say Robert got less love, for example. I find it freakish how we keep ending up in the same relationship with French left wingers. Really? Robert and Ginola are considered club icons and HBA, a cult hero. Of course you could argue he’s not on their level (although talent-wise there’s a faint argument that he could be) but would ASM get the same love after he left? Edited July 16, 2023 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, gdm said: Maxi has laid chances on a plate time and time again which but for poor finishing would have been assists thats not really his fault. Even yesterday he should have about 4 assists but ended up with 1 because of poor finishing. Could add more goals but he hasn’t been terrible in front of goal. He also gets us up the pitch in seconds Barnes don’t need to rely on assists - he just puts the ball in the back of the net himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, McCormick said: Really? Robert and Ginola are considered a club icons and HBA, a cult hero. Of course you could argue he’s not on their level (talent-wise there’s a faint argument that he could be) but would ASM get the same love after he left? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Yesterday I read the plaudits for Anderson getting a goal and assist. Maxi did the same and more, had Lewis,Anderson, and others finished their chances, he'd have had 3 if not four assists and his goal. But, nobody was bothered, just talk of lets sell our best players still, it's mental. If anything we should be looking to offload all the deadwood first, and as the stronger players move down the pecking order it strengthens your squad overall. If we could offload the deadwood they would be gone already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Also everyone wants us to keep evolving and improving - getting better success etc but are so resistant to change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Gawalls said: No I mean, that’s my point. So Robert didn’t get “less love” at all, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: If we could offload the deadwood they would be gone already. Are come on - haven’t you played FM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Barnes don’t need to rely on assists - he just puts the ball in the back of the net himself. Just put isak on the left then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, gdm said: Maxi has laid chances on a plate time and time again which but for poor finishing would have been assists thats not really his fault. Even yesterday he should have about 4 assists but ended up with 1 because of poor finishing. Could add more goals but he hasn’t been terrible in front of goal. He also gets us up the pitch in seconds 3, 3, 5 ,1 is very poor in four seasons. He should have more assists and his numbers here are ok'ish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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