xLiaaamx Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) In our last 3 games for example, he's scored 2 and set up quite a few other chances, and what's the response? Nowt but complaining about him. HBA is viewed through massively rose tinted glasses now too, and his own flaws are ignored when used as the comparison. HBA had a much better team around him aswell, with Cabaye, Sissoko, Remy, Ba etc. He always had loads of pacey players to create space for him. But that's Newcastle fans down to a T. Always harking after the past. It's why Keegan and Rafa still get suggested as manager. We always just want what we used to have. (And I loved Ben Arfa for the majority of his time here, but I can't see ASM putting on weight the way he did at the end.) Edited January 29, 2022 by xLiaaamx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I watch football for many reasons, two of the main ones are watching my team (and others) play lovely football, so I've obviously been on a starvation diet for a feck long time where we're concerned. The second main one is to see players like ASM, and he actually plays for us. I get the criticism of him, but team he plays in is feckin awful, under tactics that left it all to ASM to do something special. That's going to change if Eddie gets it right, and I've no doubt we'll see more of ASM being a mint team players as well as individual spark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: I don't get the ASM hate mind. Not sure if hate is the right word like but you get my drift. It's definitely not hate for me. I love the fella, he's a total character and I want him to become an integral part of a trophy winning team. I've always attributed the frustration to bad decision making and was convinced he would improve in that respect. He has demonstrated an awareness of his issues, in an earlier interview, and promised that better players will help him to address this. Personal ambition is a vital characteristic for personal success, and I admire that, but if his development is dependent upon his assessment of the team as good enough for him, then he will definitely struggle to win anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I like him a lot but I hope we outgrow him over the next couple of seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, Dr Venkman said: I like him a lot but I hope we outgrow him over the next couple of seasons. He will become better with better players around him . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 It’s natural for fans to get pissed off with ASM every now and again because of how he plays, mostly because we can all see the talent he does have, that and I genuinely believe it’s mostly because people want him to be or become the finished article which if he did, well, he’s one of the top players in the world. If he wasn’t an NUFC player, watching him play, he’d be one of my fave players to watch full-stop. That said, if he can fine tune his game, eliminate his bad habits and become more efficient, there would be no issues whatsoever. Can he, will he? We have to remember he is a rough diamond in a shit team. Put him in KK’s team or Sir Bobby’s and we are talking a Robert, a Ginola, a Solano etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, GWN said: He will become better with better players around him . He will, but he still has lots of work to do on his own game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Bimpy474 said: I watch football for many reasons, two of the main ones are watching my team (and others) play lovely football, so I've obviously been on a starvation diet for a feck long time where we're concerned. The second main one is to see players like ASM, and he actually plays for us. I get the criticism of him, but team he plays in is feckin awful, under tactics that left it all to ASM to do something special. That's going to change if Eddie gets it right, and I've no doubt we'll see more of ASM being a mint team players as well as individual spark. if players could finish he’d have set up two against Leeds on the counter and won a penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 In reality, as frustrating as he is and as critical as I’ve sometimes been of his game at times, he is the least of our worries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: if players could finish he’d have set up two against Leeds on the counter and won a penalty. Willock and Fraser have been rightly criticised for those failures. Why should ASM be immune to criticism for his? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: Robert (and Bellamy) transformed us from a lower midtable side to Champions League and title contenders. And yet they ended up as cancers, eating away at the heart of out club. At least that is what some twonks on here were saying at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 50 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Willock and Fraser have been rightly criticised for those failures. Why should ASM be immune to criticism for his? ASM gets criticised more than those 2 players and basically anyone in our team while contributing way more than anyone else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 ASM has been the only player on a consistent level to offer any kind of threat, he can hold the ball in tight positions, carry to ball out of midfield, take pressure off the defence, bring a goal threat or can draw a foul from the opposition. Sometimes holds the ball a little too long at times, some times should bring people into play a bit more often but in his defence, it has all been on his shoulders for far too long and he has been starved of decent players around him to read his game and what he is capable of. Is he beyond criticism, of course not, but people should balance their views out on the utter garbage he has had around him. He's had little to no help at times and most if not all of our play has been through him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, triggs said: ASM gets criticised more than those 2 players and basically anyone in our team while contributing way more than anyone else Did I say he wasn't criticised? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Dr Venkman said: I like him a lot but I hope we outgrow him over the next couple of seasons. Would be great if he could grow into a better player as the team improves. He's literally got everything, pace, power, a canon of a right foot....if he could release the ball early now and then he'd be winning that Balon D'Or. Will be interesting to see how he develops over the next 12 months as we keep upgrading the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, TRon said: Would be great if he could grow into a better player as the team improves. He's literally got everything, pace, power, a canon of a right foot....if he could release the ball early now and then he'd be winning that Balon D'Or. Will be interesting to see how he develops over the next 12 months as we keep upgrading the squad. Yeah I’d love home to improve and stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Phwoar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 So classy today. Such quick feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 What a fucking guy this lad is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Unreal performance. They had 4 people at some times but he still pulled them apart by the end. Deserved at least one goal. He's lapping it up as I write this and he deserves every bit of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bompeter Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Exceptional footballer. Shame on the deranged and degenerate freaks polluting this board recently fantasising over "shipping him out". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 He's not human. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Never wanted him shipped, but wanted his kind of decision making and composure from him. Today he was absolutely superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Pardew Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Fantastic! Imagine being a twat on Twitter comparing this guy to Traore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 So fucking good. Love him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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