Wilson Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Looked like he did for the few games after Bruce left. Not as direct or confident, seemed off the pace but he's msised a few games so probably expected. Hope the break does them all good, we need our best players firing when they come back. Rest up, focus, stay up. It's all that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Yep, when he comes on lare in a game the rest of the team just desperately look to get the ball to him all the time and he just tries to win the match single handed. He's much more part of the team when he starts. Everton gave away so much room in the first half. Easy to sit here and complain but its the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I do think ASM's lack of discipline off the ball will hinder him under Howe. A good press only works if every player is applying it and if one player drops off then it actually completely opens you up. ASM doesn't do it. I would love nothing more than for him to be our star player as we head into a more exciting era, but he's actually got to do more otherwise he'll be out. He has the opportunity to be the front of something really positive, but he's got to work for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Plays bad more than he plays well I've always felt. Not having a go at him just at how massively over-rated he is by some people. Tonight was tricky because 10men is hard to judge against but we've played worse after he's come on these last two games not better as the conventional wisdom would assume. Though what options do we have? Edited March 17, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 It's not an attack on ASM especially but I'm fed up with the commentators going on about him being unpredictable. He's... just not that unpredictable, is he. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Honestly, I thought Miggy was far more impactful than him tonight. I think he was much better suited to being the big fish that we ran everything through. He won't last long under Howe, which is sad because he's exciting, but he's not practical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, elbee909 said: It's not an attack on ASM especially but I'm fed up with the commentators going on about him being unpredictable. He's... just not that unpredictable, is he. Nah, Iwobi had his number straight away, stopping him cutting inside. Hopefully he can start games soon and regain his form. In the last Everton game he looked like he’d reached another level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Only one "top" team in the league allows their forward players to "cheat" and that is Man Utd; look at the state of them. City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea etc all have their forward players put in a real shift. If their forward players can't be carried then ours definitely can't. If ASM either can't or won't press from the front we should sell him. Under Bruce we could carry him because he carried us but that isn't the case anymore. Pre takeover he was probably bigger than the club but that has changed now. Against Brentford we got so much joy when they went down to 10 because we moved the ball quickly. He just refused to do that. Howe has a system and style that works and at the moment ASM is making us worse when he's on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, PlymouthGeordie said: Pre takeover he was probably bigger than the club Hahahahahahaha. Wow. Edited March 17, 2022 by Mr Raspberry Jam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 The fucking embedding on here man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 In theory he should be a great impact sub but he's pretty much always bobbins from the bench. Seems to be the one players not properly adapted to Howe's ways as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: Hahahahahahaha. Wow. He was though. In the sense that if we weren't taken over he'd have definitely left and our sole game plan was give him the ball and hope for the best. He was our entire game plan under Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 It's becoming more and more apparent that ASM is unlikely to have a long term future at NUFC or indeed the career he wants if he can't play for the team. That means working for the team, playing passes at the right time and not sulking when things don't go his way. We aren't good enough to lose him yet but the situation will be different in 12 months time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said: He was though. In the sense that if we weren't taken over he'd have definitely left and our sole game plan was give him the ball and hope for the best. He was our entire game plan under Bruce. So what you mean is he was our best player under Bruce? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Wonder if he’s fell foul of the new higher standards and just isn’t as committed now. He got away with murder under Bruce but we all knew that wasn’t going to be the case with Howe. Whatever it is I hope he can sort it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: So what you mean is he was our best player under Bruce? Look at the style of football used to make him our best player. All 11 behind the ball, give him the ball and see if he can run the length of the pitch. He'd clearly outgrown us pre takeover but that is no longer the case. Our unbeaten run has been built on tactical discipline and work rate. He doesn't contribute on either front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalidao Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 The blame for the goal could be shared by multiple players. ASM is the least responsible IMO. Joelinton short pass was an invitation for an interception, ASM had to try and pass it back instead of trying to dribble. Then comes Dan Burn who easily let Iwobi get away and Schaer didn't track the run into the box. Dubravka had to do better saving that shot, it wasn't that difficult with better positioning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, STM said: It's becoming more and more apparent that ASM is unlikely to have a long term future at NUFC or indeed the career he wants if he can't play for the team. That means working for the team, playing passes at the right time and not sulking when things don't go his way. We aren't good enough to lose him yet but the situation will be different in 12 months time. That spell with him out of the team and the run we went on was very telling to a lot of people who were convinced he was our only chance at getting results. There was much more of a balance to our play going forward, even though it wasn't always perfect, and it made us a lot more organised defensively too. If we stay up we'll have so many options to improve this team and I just don't see why we'd persist with him really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 There is some absolutely batshit mental takes on here tonight man. Christ of the night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, Mr Raspberry Jam said: There is some absolutely batshit mental takes on here tonight man. Christ of the night. Just a matter of time man. We'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 He's just incredibly one note. When he's on song that note will shatter the Louvre but, otherwise, he's just running into brick walls. He doesn't have any serious passing or crossing skills, he doesn't really find spaces in the box to get on the end of chances and obviously he doesn't really do the defensive work. It's just dribbling and early shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I like him, but there's not a top team in the world with front players that don't graft their tits off. Whether he becomes that player, he comes along for the ride for a bit, or Howe brings in someone else straight away, who knows, but hopefully we get to the point where we're not saying 'if he didn't have flaws he wouldn't be at Newcastle in the first place' because that would mean we've not progressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Little over month ago he had the best game of his NUFC career against Everton, under Eddie Howe. One of the best performances I can remember from a NUFC player. Now people want to get rid of him in the summer because he's lazy, useless, ineffective and can't play under Howe. Fucking ridiculous, no wonder there are people calling us fickle and deluded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I don't think it's that ridiculous. When he's good he's brilliant but he's rarely at that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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