Wolfcastle Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) HBA's off the field stuff rather than ability limited his career to OM, PSG, Newcastle and a certain amount of French caps, ASM is almost the antethsis off the pitch but a mostly Ashley NUFC is the pinnacle of his career so far. . Edited April 3, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Hmmm... Ah reet he was just widely loved for no reason then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: Ah reet he was just widely loved for no reason then HBA was a fabulous footballer but he was not consistently great for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Came in the stadium looking miserable as hell then came out to take pictures with the fans lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Ah reet he was just widely loved for no reason then Think it was more because he was outrageously talented and scored / set up some blinders, as well as being a rare ray of hope in a bleak time for us. I adore him as much as the next guy but he had some indifferent games for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I personally think that HBA's touch and technique was on a different planet to anything else I've seen. That's not to take away from St Max or anyone else, I just don't think there's anyone he can really be compared to. Scored two of the best goals I've ever seen in person at SJP, but probably only comparable only to St Max in that there's a buzz around the stadium whenever either picked up the ball, and that's kind of why you go. But ultimately, HBA was a supreme talent either without the will to succeed or badly mismanaged. Or a bit of both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: HBA was a fabulous footballer but he was not consistently great for us. He very rarely had a poor game, atleast no more than any other attacking player will go missing from time to time. Again, there's a reason he's so fondly remembered here, it isn't just pulled out of thin air, and it's not just because he had 'potential'. He was consistently great when he played, even coming back from injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: He very rarely had a poor game, atleast no more than any other attacking player will go missing from time to time. Again, there's a reason he's so fondly remembered here, it isn't just pulled out of thin air, and it's not just because he had 'potential'. He was consistently great when he played, even coming back from injury. Imo he needed a run of games. When he finally dislodged Ryan Taylor (lmao) in the 11/12 season he was consistently brilliant. Then picked up that bad hamstring injury early on in the following season, was rushed back and aggravated it, then never got a consistent run of games. All fell apart in 13/14. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) I cannot remember which injury it was (might have been the leg break) but Pardew completely fucked his return from it. I remember him being good against City then being dropped, him saying he was fit (he looked very sharp) and Pardew saying he wasn't. Was like a month or 2 before he forced himself into the side by completely demolishing some poor sods (possibly Stoke?). There was a lot of shit like that going on, obviously HBA has himself to blame for a lot, but it really aggravating to see. Edited April 3, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bompeter Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 HBA had plenty of poor games (inevitable given the sides he was so often playing in). I've no doubt in 10 years time when our fans are laying into our new mercurial French forward that ASM will join the Robert/Ginola/HBA sainthood of players that were always brilliant and everyone loved all the time. On 30/09/2013 at 22:02, Hanshithispantz said: If Ben Arfa isn't injured then his 2nd half performance was fucking shocking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) I never said he didn't have bad games. I specifically said, that like any other forward, he would inevitably go missing. Weird as fuck EDIT: Pretty sure im talking about Pardew in that 10 year old quote anyway. Not even sure what point you're making. Edited April 3, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: I remember him being our best player against City then being dropped, him saying he was fit (he looked very sharp) and Pardew saying he wasn't. Was like a month or 2 before he forced himself into the side Wouldn't have been the leg break. Can only assume it was the 0-4 defeat first game of the season you're referring to. He started the next 5 league games after that match. https://www.nufc.com/html/2013-14html/fixtures.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Wouldn't have been the leg break. Can only assume it was the 0-4 defeat first game of the season you're referring to. He started the next 5 league games after that match. https://www.nufc.com/html/2013-14html/fixtures.html Might not have been City or the leg break tbh. I cannot find the post I did on here but I remember looking through a 3 month period or so at the time of Pardew refusing to play him, despite him being great in the short stints he got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 hours ago, astraguy said: Come on It's a fair comment. HBA is/was better than both Ginola and Robert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 51 minutes ago, Conjo said: It's a fair comment. HBA is/was better than both Ginola and Robert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Conjo said: It's a fair comment. HBA is/was better than both Ginola and Robert. Pints of vodka on a Sunday afternoon? Nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 He's playing well, actually giving the passes he needs to. Great little touch to draw the foul from kane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, buzza said: He's playing well, actually giving the passes he needs to. Great little touch to draw the foul from kane He's performing OK. I want him performing a lot better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 general scheme of things hes complety hopeless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Conjo said: It's a fair comment. HBA is/was better than both Ginola and Robert. On talent yes, Robert was better for output though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: general scheme of things hes complety hopeless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, neesy111 said: On talent yes, Robert was better for output though. In terms of talent that wins games, Robert had more in his Y-fronts. I loved Hatem, but come on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 SELL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 The rest of his career is very much in his own hands right now. If he can buy into what Howe (and any top/ambitious team) wants, he could be our star player for the coming years (and I'd love it). If he doesn't however, then he'll be gone and will likely never be anything more than a highlight reel player for an average club. He has no better opportunity in his career than he has right now to be at the forefront of something [hopefully] special. It's on him to take it, but the clock is ticking for him as we get closer to to the transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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