Disco Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I used to think Graeme Bailey was just a fairly unreliable sports journo. If you ever catch him on Loaded Mag (he was on last night) your bullshit meter will go into overdrive. He also has a weird hard on for critisising ASM. He's an absolute whopper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: He just won’t fit into our system. There’s no way he’s getting through the work Willock or Miggy put in The Willock/Joelinton left-side system has yielded one goal in our last 4 league games. The saving grace is that we haven't conceded any either, but it does seem like it might be overdoing the work rate/defensive aspect at the expense of goals. We can definitely change the system to be more attacking against most teams imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Smal said: The Willock/Joelinton left-side system has yielded one goal in our last 4 league games. The saving grace is that we haven't conceded any either, but it does seem like it might be overdoing the work rate/defensive aspect at the expense of goals. We can definitely change the system to be more attacking against most teams imo. You tell the manager that yhen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) You could just be open-minded enough to not think that everything that's already happened means that's how things will always be. ASM might be integrated into the team and be a star, he might be used as an impact sub, he might wither away and end up sold, who knows? Waste of time trying to be a know-it-all after 20 games of an injury-hit season, particularly when that same manager said about 4 hours ago that ASM's 'here to stay, and an integral part of my team' Edited January 30, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 ASM has the most raw talent in the squad. I think Eddie will persist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: You could just be open-minded enough to not think that everything that's already happened means that's how things will always be. ASM might be integrated into the team and be a star, he might be used as an impact sub, he might wither away and end up sold, who knows? Waste of time trying to be a know-it-all after 20 games of an injury-hit season, particularly when that same manager said about 4 hours ago that ASM's 'here to stay, and an integral part of my team' He’ll be an impact sub at best. You think he’ll be happy with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I dunno, because it's just your hypothetical mate I'm more in the not making predictions/anything's possible camp re ASM tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: He’ll be an impact sub at best. You think he’ll be happy with that? You don't know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pata said: You don't know that. No I don’t. I just can’t see where he fits in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Thomson Mouse said: No I don’t. I just can’t see where he fits in LW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Wasn't there a stat just a day or so ago that ASM played more minutes than any other player last year? Sure some of that was under the cabbage, but it's baffling to think he's not rated by Howe. He's not played because of injury and because we've not lost since he's been back fit again. It took Bruno ages to get in the first XI ffs, and Isak is having to walk the same path as ASM. When you consider all of that, there's absolutely no reason to think Howe doesn't rate or trust him. He just needs to bide his time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Wasn't there a stat just a day or so ago that ASM played more minutes than any other player last year? Sure some of that was under the cabbage, but it's baffling to think he's not rated by Howe. He's not played because of injury and because we've not lost since he's been back fit again. It took Bruno ages to get in the first XI ffs, and Isak is having to walk the same path as ASM. When you consider all of that, there's absolutely no reason to think Howe doesn't rate or trust him. He just needs to bide his time. Or he just doesn't fit into Howe’s plans? I hope he does but just can’t see it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 do we not think Howe's thinking that with Gordon he has the best of both worlds going forward in someone with the flair of ASM and the work ethic of Willock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: do we not think Howe's thinking that with Gordon he has the best of both worlds going forward in someone with the flair of ASM and the work ethic of Willock? I'm thinking he realises that if we're gonna play in Europe next sesson, we probably don't want to rely on Jacob Murphy if ASM or Almiron gets injured Edited January 30, 2023 by mikejaxer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: Or he just doesn't fit into Howe’s plans? I hope he does but just can’t see it Howe said himself only just today he’s integral to his plans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Gawalls said: do we not think Howe's thinking that with Gordon he has the best of both worlds going forward in someone with the flair of ASM and the work ethic of Willock? Gordon doesn't have anywhere near the flair of ASM and that's not a dig at Gordon. I think we are too solid right now defensively on the left hand side and Howe obviously realises that but we are still not losing games (and creating chances) so he's in no hurry to change the starting eleven. Burn and Joelinton covering for ASM is more than enough and I'm pretty sure ASM or Gordon are on the left soon probably on Willock's expense. Almiron has started almost every game this season, Gordon should help with giving him some rest too. We are in a position where we can spend almost £50m on a squad player. Edited January 30, 2023 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I’ve been pretty down on his chances of staying, but I think he has looked good in the minutes he’s had since he came back. I reckon he stays and gets his place back as long as he stays fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pata said: Gordon doesn't have anywhere near the flair of ASM and that's not a dig at Gordon. I think we are too solid right now defensively on the left hand side and Howe obviously realises that but we are still not losing games (and creating chances) so he's in no hurry to change the starting eleven. Burn and Joelinton covering for ASM is more than enough and I'm pretty sure ASM or Gordon are on the left soon probably on Willock's expense. Almiron has started almost every game this season, Gordon should help with giving him some rest too. We are in a position where we can spend almost £50m on a squad player. We certainly are solid down the left but we don’t put any changes away and miss way too many chances from there. I think if we ever get that right then we’re laughing. Edited January 30, 2023 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Chris_R said: Wasn't there a stat just a day or so ago that ASM played more minutes than any other player last year? Sure some of that was under the cabbage, but it's baffling to think he's not rated by Howe. He's not played because of injury and because we've not lost since he's been back fit again. It took Bruno ages to get in the first XI ffs, and Isak is having to walk the same path as ASM. When you consider all of that, there's absolutely no reason to think Howe doesn't rate or trust him. He just needs to bide his time. Exactly this. He was always in the starting line up prior to his injury problems. It's about not breaking what is working right now. He will get back in soon. Likewise Isak. The chance will come and if they seize it they will likely be back in the starting line up more regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Pata said: LW With 4 team mates behind him in case he has to track back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palestoon Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Cant help but feel like its make or break time for Maxi. Big chance over the next 3 games to cement a place in the side for himself with Bruno out. If Howe goes with Gordon from the start against West Ham on saturday, that would probably signal that Maxi's time here is coming to an end sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 If we actually employed a bit of rotation then, if we get European football next season, there’s more than enough games for Gordon, Miggy and ASM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Palestoon said: Cant help but feel like its make or break time for Maxi. Big chance over the next 3 games to cement a place in the side for himself with Bruno out. If Howe goes with Gordon from the start against West Ham on saturday, that would probably signal that Maxi's time here is coming to an end sadly. I don't think he will and imo that would be unfair on Maxi. I don't think it's quite make or break but it is a massive oppurtunity for him to cement his place in the side. A lot of circumstances could unfold when there' so much going to every game and we have some options. He could be MOTM and be the man again and undroppable for the final with a couple strong performances. Could go the other way, be dragged off after an hour, Gordon & Almiron shines and he's a perma sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Come on Maxi!! A good creative game needed from you!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, buzza said: Come on Maxi!! A good creative game needed from you!! Just him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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