gbandit Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 He’s really not a player who benefits from being in and out of the side. His injuries are the major issue with him. If he’s going to pick up niggling injuries multiple times a season then he’s just not going to work for us as he always comes back a yard short to begin with and rusty with his link up play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Saw something on twitter which made a very good point. When he plays he makes the opposition full back unable to sit high up the pitch, as well as often causing defenders to double up on him which obviously creates space elsewhere for us. Even if he's not playing well he seems to cause more panic for the opposition than when Isak or Joelinton plays there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Keep him as we won’t get much for him anyway. Hopefully some sort of specialist can improve his fitness and at least make him a bit more reliable for next season. Sign one top class ready to go wide player along with a young diamond like Arda Guler and our options are looking pretty good out wide. Especially if Gordon can start showing next season that he’s worth anywhere near 45m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ikon said: Keep him as we won’t get much for him anyway. Hopefully some sort of specialist can improve his fitness and at least make him a bit more reliable for next season. Sign one top class ready to go wide player along with a young diamond like Arda Guler and our options are looking pretty good out wide. Especially if Gordon can start showing next season that he’s worth anywhere near 45m. Do we really need another winger? We already got ASM, Gordon, Almiron and Murphy who are pure wingers. On top of that we got Joelinton, Willock and Isak who can fill in when needed. There is a lot of other positions we should prioritize. Left back we only have Burn who is playing out of position and has been looking shaky lately and Targett who clearly hasn't shown enough to Howe that he should play, when he did it looked bad tbh. Centre back we need a young talent who can fill in and eventually replace Schär over time. Same with right back and Trippier. I know we got Ashby, but perhaps aim a little higher than someone who has played 1 premier league game in his career. Centre midfield we only have 4 players to fill in 3 positions. Need atleast a couple in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) We 100% definitely need a top class wide player. I see Almiron and Murphy as squad players at best. Despite their seasons. ASM isn’t reliable fitness wise. I would go for one transformational wide player and one youngster Edited May 14, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, Ikon said: We 100% definitely need a top class wide player. I see Almiron and Murphy as squad players at best. Despite their seasons. ASM isn’t reliable fitness wise. I would go for one transformational wide player and one youngster I’d sell Almiron if a decent offer came in tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) It’s The Gordon signing that doesn’t really fit. Edited May 14, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ikon said: We 100% definitely need a top class wide player. I see Almiron and Murphy as squad players at best. Despite their seasons. ASM isn’t reliable fitness wise. I would go for one transformational wide player and one youngster Agree to disagree then. Wouldn't say no to a top class reliable winger, but they dont come cheap and I think we should prioritize other positions this summer. Edited May 14, 2023 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Displayname said: Agree to disagree then. Wouldn't say no to a top class reliable winger, but they dont come cheap and I think we should prioritize other positions this summer. Fair enough. I just think and am 100% certain that we should and will sign one. But also get the other important positions solved. It doesn’t mean that we won’t fix other weak positions too. Pretty sure Howe knows that Miggy and Murphy won’t be long term 1st team starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Thought we looked better with him on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Thought our shape was better but ASM himself was pretty ineffective. He’d be a different player if he appreciated the opportunity of a one - two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 14/05/2023 at 14:13, Ikon said: We 100% definitely need a top class wide player. I see Almiron and Murphy as squad players at best. Despite their seasons. ASM isn’t reliable fitness wise. I would go for one transformational wide player and one youngster Getting in two wingers when we've recently spent 40m on one and have 4 first team wingers competing for 2 spots (and now also competing against Isak it seems) is crazy Besides keeper it's the last position we need to strengthen imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Conjo said: Getting in two wingers when we've recently spent 40m on one and have 4 first team wingers competing for 2 spots (and now also competing against Isak it seems) is crazy Besides keeper it's the last position we need to strengthen imo. We could do with a proper backup GK tbf. We'll need to sell a winger to get one in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Good luck finding a better back-up keeper than Dubs. Agree we need to sell one to get one in on the winger situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, Conjo said: Good luck finding a better back-up keeper than Dubs. Agree we need to sell one to get one in on the winger situation. People still over-rating Dubs I see. We need a backup GK that has a similarish profile to Pope. At least one that steps off his line. That changes so much about our game And I expect Dubs to go in search of first-team football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Thought we looked better with him on. Was a timely reminder to those constantly wanting to sell him that he offers something none of the others in the squad do. The ability to beat your man will always be priceless. Especially against a 10 man defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 He's the one player that has regressed under Howes management, not saying in anyway its a reflection on either of them, but he's probably that one player you leave alone, not to every managers taste, because its out of your control a bit if he's provided the freedom to just do his thing, but I think where Howe likes players energy levels high for 90, Saint-Maximin just doesn't possess the work rate to do it all, he likes to choose when he uses his stamina and its in moments of magic, a true entrrtainer, right now he looks like he's trying to fit in, and it's taking away those maverick qualities. Isak doesn't look out of place there, in fact, he looked better there last night on the left, than when he returned to striker later on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, LFEE said: Was a timely reminder to those constantly wanting to sell him that he offers something none of the others in the squad do. The ability to beat your man will always be priceless. Especially against a 10 man defence. Odd thing to say after last night though. He mostly cut inside where it was most congested and then layed off a simple ball. In fact, Isak went down the line more than ASM. I’d love for him to learn to receive the ball in dangerous positions. Don’t think he reads the game like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 decent cameo, but can’t shake the feeling that’s the last we see of him at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, Big River said: decent cameo, but can’t shake the feeling that’s the last we see of him at SJP. Waving to the corner last night Same as Miggy last season after Arsenal. So expect ASM to have a stormer next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, Lotus said: Odd thing to say after last night though. He mostly cut inside where it was most congested and then layed off a simple ball. In fact, Isak went down the line more than ASM. I’d love for him to learn to receive the ball in dangerous positions. Don’t think he reads the game like that. Not odd at all. He went both ways. Unpredictable. Hoping there’s a MK3 where the balance of unpredictability returns as I feel MK2 he’s trying too hard perhaps of fitting into team patterns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 He plays as a wide attacking forward in a team that has qualified for the Champions League yet has only managed one goal all season. We need better if we want to push on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Didn’t score or assist so sadly he’s cost us the game last night. Some of what he did was up there with Savile and Epstein, truly unforgivable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Conjo said: Getting in two wingers when we've recently spent 40m on one and have 4 first team wingers competing for 2 spots (and now also competing against Isak it seems) is crazy Besides keeper it's the last position we need to strengthen imo. Im not counting Isak as a wide player at all even if he can play there. He should be central. Also if Wilson is injured we cannot even consider him out wide at this moment. ASM isn’t reliable fitness wise either. I would go for someone top class and for example Arda Guler. Then get rid of what needs to be done. Could even allow him to stay on loan at FB for a season. AG can play centrally too. If there is a chance to snap him up for a decent fee then it MUST be done, or at least do all we can to get him in. I just don’t see how someone like AG wouldn’t have a role to play. Edited May 23, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: He's the one player that has regressed under Howes management this isn't true at all btw. He's better in pretty much every measurable metric this season. Just hasn't been fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now