Positive Optimism - Saudi Takeover Edition

[FCB]

Just now, Jinky Jim said:

Time for a:-

 

 

Would be perfect time to organise a protest and get a game called off but our fanbase is too fickle and would rather attend games in silence.

[Whitley mag]

Fucking hell for a second I thought Amanda had announced the deal was off or something.

 

Look on the bright side you’ve got potentially another 6 months of great craic in here with myself, manor and Jinky.

 

Keep calm and carry on lads plenty of more twists and info to come out.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 19, 2021 by Whitley mag

[Joey Linton]

3 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Fucking hell for a second I thought Amanda had announced the deal was off or something.

 

Look on the bright side you’ve got potentially another 6 months of great craic in here with myself, manor and Jinky.

 

Keep calm and carry on lads plenty of more twists and info to come out.

 

 

 

 

 

Every cloud mate. 

[FCB]

Toon For Change is organising a protest outside SJP just before we play West Ham.

[gdm]

Can someone clarify when roughly and realistically the CAT case will happen? 

[nbthree3]

I think first a jurisdiction application hearing must happen. That's before anything else continues... all sources (Jacobs, Chronicle etc) insist an update by the end of the month is likely. Kennedy claimed a 6 month expedited process taking us around November, but it's Newcastle and the delays pile up so no can't say for certain

[Numbers]

7 minutes ago, gdm said:

Can someone clarify when roughly and realistically the CAT case will happen? 

At this rate summer of 2023.

[Joey Linton]

7 minutes ago, nbthree3 said:

I think first a jurisdiction application hearing must happen. That's before anything else continues... all sources (Jacobs, Chronicle etc) insist an update by the end of the month is likely. Kennedy claimed a 6 month expedited process taking us around November, but it's Newcastle and the delays pile up so no can't say for certain

I think it's fairly clear now that anything coming from Kennedy and the podcast lot needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt. 

[SUPERTOON]

5 minutes ago, Joey Linton said:

I think it's fairly clear now that anything coming from Kennedy and the podcast lot needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt. 

Or just completely ignored coz it’s all been bullshit from the beginning ?

[Joey Linton]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Or just completely ignored coz it’s all been bullshit from the beginning ?

I'm trying to stay within the spirit of what's been a surprisingly aggro free discussion on here tonight. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Joey Linton said:

I'm trying to stay within the spirit of what's been a surprisingly aggro free discussion on here tonight. 

Understandable, but tonight’s news shows them all up for exactly what they are.

[Numbers]

I just don't get why people goto such huge lengths to mislead fellow fans (if thats what people are doing). Can't get my head around it.

[Jinky Jim]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Understandable, but tonight’s news shows them all up for exactly what they are.

We’ve not heard the last of this story…..I’m sure more will come out and perhaps a “glint of light” to keep us still interested on the takeover…..I’ve not given up just yet, though i can understand everyone’s frustration and anger

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Jinky Jim said:

We’ve not heard the last of this story…..I’m sure more will come out and perhaps a “glint of light” to keep us still interested on the takeover…..I’ve not given up just yet, though i can understand everyone’s frustration and anger

Good luck to you if you want to keep following this shit storm for the next 6 months or more.

[Jinky Jim]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Good luck to you if you want to keep following this shit storm for the next 6 months or more.

I’ll try and avoid the worst of the itk’s,though i still get excited when some tasty titbit appears……totally understand people just giving up and getting angry at the whole saga…

[Wandy]

If a supposedly "simple" process like arbitration can be continuously kicked down the road so often and for so long, then it's not unreasonable to assume that the CAT could literally be years away.

 

[Numbers]

2 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Money/fame (niche tho it might be) people like to feel important. It’s sad but I mean just go on Reddit and look at the moderators on a popular sub. People love that feel of importance in an otherwise unimportant life 

insignificunts you mean?

[LV]

4 hours ago, IMTTS said:

This is incorrect. “craic” is a faux-Gaelicised word invented in the 1950s as part of an advertising campaign in Ireland; “crack” as used in the North East pre-dates it by a century or more.

 

Please acknowledge your mistake and perhaps delete the post. Thanks.

 

 

 

Look who’s discovered Wikipedia!

 

10 journalist points to you 

[duo]

[nufcjb]

Arbitration was supposed to last a few days or up to a week right? So it lasted a day only in this case? Well, many of us already said we wanted this to go through, but everyone was also reminded to always be cautious and be realistic. Never go gung-ho and over confident in anything Newcastle United related.

 

As for those on Twitter who think they are some kind of special agent/ITK connected to the club, we should just avoid them all together now. D.T.A. DON'T TRUST ANYBODY.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2021 by nufcjb

[Danh1]

1 hour ago, nufcjb said:

Arbitration was supposed to last a few days or up to a week right? So it lasted a day only in this case? Well, many of us already said we wanted this to go through, but everyone was also reminded to always be cautious and be realistic. Never go gung-ho and over confident in anything Newcastle United related.

 

As for those on Twitter who think they are some kind of specual agent/ITK connectes to thr club, we should just avoid them all together now. D.T.A. DON'T TRUST ANYBODY.

 

 

 

 

 

Aye.

 

People like that Sean cunt, hope they all get gout. 

[Wallsendmag]

On the plus side it gives Di Marco more time to perfect his bread making skills and paint some more pictures. Every cloud and all that.

[Dokko]

Very surprised Ashley hasn't gone 2 feet in to the PL after yesterdays announcement. Is it that this is what they wanted for reasons such as the other case has more chance or is he pissed at his own legal team for letting him down. 

 

If PIF haven't disclosed something again he needs to cancel the takeover and invite other offers as it'll never pass if they aren't playing ball.

[Montey]

Just now, Dokko said:

Very surprised Ashley hasn't gone 2 feet in to the PL after yesterdays announcement. Is it that this is what they wanted for reasons such as the other case has more chance or is he pissed at his own legal team for letting him down. 

 

If PIF haven't disclosed something again he needs to cancel the takeover and invite other offers as it'll never pass if they aren't playing ball.

 

This (the lack of criticism by Ashley) is my glimmer of hope that this is a tactical decision on Ashley's side.

 

If the delay was entirely due to the Premier League I would expect Ashley to put on the cleats and go in hard with both feet.  The fact that he hasn't suggests that the delay is not entirely (if at all) caused by the Premier League.

 

If the delay to arbitration is because of an alleged lack of disclosure by the buying consortium (i.e. PIF) then it's a question of whether the arbitration tribunal has unfairly made such a decision or whether the consortium really hasn't disclosed sufficient information.  We're not likely to find this out until sometime after the arbitration process is completed.  But, if it was because of the PIF then I think there is a reasonable chance that Ashley will start talking to other potential buyers and if one of these firms up then I expect Ashley will make a "tire kickers" comment about PIF shortly afterwards (as he did for other suiters).  Also, if the delay is because the arbitration panel has made an unjust decision (delaying when no delay was necessary) then I expect this will be folded into the CAT cases as further evidence of anti-competitive behaviour.

 

The last possibility is that Ashley has deliberately incurred this delay for his own reasons (possibly to cause CAT to happen first, possibly for other reasons we're unaware of).  If the delay has been caused by Ashley I can only presume he believes such a delay helps him to complete the sale of the club.  This is my glimmer of hope.

[Dokko]

2 minutes ago, Montey said:

 

This (the lack of criticism by Ashley) is my glimmer of hope that this is a tactical decision on Ashley's side.

 

If the delay was entirely due to the Premier League I would expect Ashley to put on the cleats and go in hard with both feet.  The fact that he hasn't suggests that the delay is not entirely (if at all) caused by the Premier League.

 

If the delay to arbitration is because of an alleged lack of disclosure by the buying consortium (i.e. PIF) then it's a question of whether the arbitration tribunal has unfairly made such a decision or whether the consortium really hasn't disclosed sufficient information.  We're not likely to find this out until sometime after the arbitration process is completed.  But, if it was because of the PIF then I think there is a reasonable chance that Ashley will start talking to other potential buyers and if one of these firms up then I expect Ashley will make a "tire kickers" comment about PIF shortly afterwards (as he did for other suiters).  Also, if the delay is because the arbitration panel has made an unjust decision (delaying when no delay was necessary) then I expect this will be folded into the CAT cases as further evidence of anti-competitive behaviour.

 

The last possibility is that Ashley has deliberately incurred this delay for his own reasons (possibly to cause CAT to happen first, possibly for other reasons we're unaware of).  If the delay has been caused by Ashley I can only presume he believes such a delay helps him to complete the sale of the club.  This is my glimmer of hope.

It's a mad old long shot, but it's about the only glimmer of hope left. Thankfully I'm numb again after a complete internal rage over the delay. It's much easier this way.