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Just now, Joey Linton said:

I'm trying to stay within the spirit of what's been a surprisingly aggro free discussion on here tonight. 

Understandable, but tonight’s news shows them all up for exactly what they are.

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1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Understandable, but tonight’s news shows them all up for exactly what they are.

We’ve not heard the last of this story…..I’m sure more will come out and perhaps a “glint of light” to keep us still interested on the takeover…..I’ve not given up just yet, though i can understand everyone’s frustration and anger

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Just now, Jinky Jim said:

We’ve not heard the last of this story…..I’m sure more will come out and perhaps a “glint of light” to keep us still interested on the takeover…..I’ve not given up just yet, though i can understand everyone’s frustration and anger

Good luck to you if you want to keep following this shit storm for the next 6 months or more.

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Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Good luck to you if you want to keep following this shit storm for the next 6 months or more.

I’ll try and avoid the worst of the itk’s,though i still get excited when some tasty titbit appears……totally understand people just giving up and getting angry at the whole saga…

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If a supposedly "simple" process like arbitration can be continuously kicked down the road so often and for so long, then it's not unreasonable to assume that the CAT could literally be years away.

 

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1 hour ago, Numbers said:

I just don't get why people goto such huge lengths to mislead fellow fans (if thats what people are doing). Can't get my head around it.

Money/fame (niche tho it might be) people like to feel important. It’s sad but I mean just go on Reddit and look at the moderators on a popular sub. People love that feel of importance in an otherwise unimportant life 

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2 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Money/fame (niche tho it might be) people like to feel important. It’s sad but I mean just go on Reddit and look at the moderators on a popular sub. People love that feel of importance in an otherwise unimportant life 

insignificunts you mean?

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4 hours ago, IMTTS said:


This is incorrect. “craic” is a faux-Gaelicised word invented in the 1950s as part of an advertising campaign in Ireland; “crack” as used in the North East pre-dates it by a century or more.

 

Please acknowledge your mistake and perhaps delete the post. Thanks.

 

 

 

Look who’s discovered Wikipedia!

 

10 journalist points to you 

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Arbitration was supposed to last a few days or up to a week right? So it lasted a day only in this case? Well, many of us already said we wanted this to go through, but everyone was also reminded to always be cautious and be realistic. Never go gung-ho and over confident in anything Newcastle United related.

 

As for those on Twitter who think they are some kind of special agent/ITK connected to the club, we should just avoid them all together now. D.T.A. DON'T TRUST ANYBODY.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, nufcjb said:

Arbitration was supposed to last a few days or up to a week right? So it lasted a day only in this case? Well, many of us already said we wanted this to go through, but everyone was also reminded to always be cautious and be realistic. Never go gung-ho and over confident in anything Newcastle United related.

 

As for those on Twitter who think they are some kind of specual agent/ITK connectes to thr club, we should just avoid them all together now. D.T.A. DON'T TRUST ANYBODY.

 

 

 

 

 

Aye.

 

People like that Sean cunt, hope they all get gout. 

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Very surprised Ashley hasn't gone 2 feet in to the PL after yesterdays announcement. Is it that this is what they wanted for reasons such as the other case has more chance or is he pissed at his own legal team for letting him down. 

 

If PIF haven't disclosed something again he needs to cancel the takeover and invite other offers as it'll never pass if they aren't playing ball.

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Just now, Dokko said:

Very surprised Ashley hasn't gone 2 feet in to the PL after yesterdays announcement. Is it that this is what they wanted for reasons such as the other case has more chance or is he pissed at his own legal team for letting him down. 

 

If PIF haven't disclosed something again he needs to cancel the takeover and invite other offers as it'll never pass if they aren't playing ball.

 

This (the lack of criticism by Ashley) is my glimmer of hope that this is a tactical decision on Ashley's side.

 

If the delay was entirely due to the Premier League I would expect Ashley to put on the cleats and go in hard with both feet.  The fact that he hasn't suggests that the delay is not entirely (if at all) caused by the Premier League.

 

If the delay to arbitration is because of an alleged lack of disclosure by the buying consortium (i.e. PIF) then it's a question of whether the arbitration tribunal has unfairly made such a decision or whether the consortium really hasn't disclosed sufficient information.  We're not likely to find this out until sometime after the arbitration process is completed.  But, if it was because of the PIF then I think there is a reasonable chance that Ashley will start talking to other potential buyers and if one of these firms up then I expect Ashley will make a "tire kickers" comment about PIF shortly afterwards (as he did for other suiters).  Also, if the delay is because the arbitration panel has made an unjust decision (delaying when no delay was necessary) then I expect this will be folded into the CAT cases as further evidence of anti-competitive behaviour.

 

The last possibility is that Ashley has deliberately incurred this delay for his own reasons (possibly to cause CAT to happen first, possibly for other reasons we're unaware of).  If the delay has been caused by Ashley I can only presume he believes such a delay helps him to complete the sale of the club.  This is my glimmer of hope.

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2 minutes ago, Montey said:

 

This (the lack of criticism by Ashley) is my glimmer of hope that this is a tactical decision on Ashley's side.

 

If the delay was entirely due to the Premier League I would expect Ashley to put on the cleats and go in hard with both feet.  The fact that he hasn't suggests that the delay is not entirely (if at all) caused by the Premier League.

 

If the delay to arbitration is because of an alleged lack of disclosure by the buying consortium (i.e. PIF) then it's a question of whether the arbitration tribunal has unfairly made such a decision or whether the consortium really hasn't disclosed sufficient information.  We're not likely to find this out until sometime after the arbitration process is completed.  But, if it was because of the PIF then I think there is a reasonable chance that Ashley will start talking to other potential buyers and if one of these firms up then I expect Ashley will make a "tire kickers" comment about PIF shortly afterwards (as he did for other suiters).  Also, if the delay is because the arbitration panel has made an unjust decision (delaying when no delay was necessary) then I expect this will be folded into the CAT cases as further evidence of anti-competitive behaviour.

 

The last possibility is that Ashley has deliberately incurred this delay for his own reasons (possibly to cause CAT to happen first, possibly for other reasons we're unaware of).  If the delay has been caused by Ashley I can only presume he believes such a delay helps him to complete the sale of the club.  This is my glimmer of hope.

It's a mad old long shot, but it's about the only glimmer of hope left. Thankfully I'm numb again after a complete internal rage over the delay. It's much easier this way.

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14 minutes ago, Dokko said:

Very surprised Ashley hasn't gone 2 feet in to the PL after yesterdays announcement. Is it that this is what they wanted for reasons such as the other case has more chance or is he pissed at his own legal team for letting him down. 

 

If PIF haven't disclosed something again he needs to cancel the takeover and invite other offers as it'll never pass if they aren't playing ball.

The best thing for everyone now is for Ashley to make a statement confirming the takeover is over and let everyone get on with their lives. 
 

If things are going on in the background let them go on without anyone knowing.

 

I just don’t see a way back from here personally, particularly after the tweet last night from Amanda’s husband.

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8 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

We still only have Edwards/Jacobs reporting that it was both sides that failed to disclose?

 

Strange that only they "know" this.

 

🤔

 The Newcastle statement suggests it was to be fair.

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The parties attended a hearing today in the case between Newcastle United and the Premier League.

 

The main hearing of the arbitration has regrettably now been adjourned until early 2022 due to issues with the disclosure of evidence.

 

The parties will be making no further comment at this time.

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8 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

We still only have Edwards/Jacobs reporting that it was both sides that failed to disclose?

 

Strange that only they "know" this.

 

🤔

 

Edwards/Jacobs are about as trustworthy as Keith, Wraith and that dentist bloke. 

 

In the cold light of day, after being livid last night, it's probably time to step back away. Whether there is legs in this takeover yet or another one on the horizon the fact is we've got at least another season of the Steve's and Charnley. I won't be hanging around to witness that and I'm not holding my breath for a takeover, there's been enough waiting around now.

 

Don't believe a word anyone says unless it comes from 1 of 3 parties, even then take it with a pinch of salt.

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6 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

We still only have Edwards/Jacobs reporting that it was both sides that failed to disclose?

 

Strange that only they "know" this.

 

🤔

 

And if they're admitting that the PL are even partly to blame that means the PL must be predominantly or entirely to blame.

 

Even if it was both sides that failed to disclose things, the PL are the governing body of the premier competition of our national sport, they should have absolutely nothing to hide and no issue with disclosing anything.

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11 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

 

The parties attended a hearing today in the case between Newcastle United and the Premier League.

 

The main hearing of the arbitration has regrettably now been adjourned until early 2022 due to issues with the disclosure of evidence.

 

The parties will be making no further comment at this time.

Exactly so compare that with previous statements with us blaming the league.

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