toon25 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 He'll have made them a shit ton in commercial revenue in addition to boosting the team's following internationally, mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Of course it is fair. The team has got demonstrably worse year on year since he joined. If they'd spent his 100 million fee and 32 million a year wages on refreshing the team they'd be better off. There is absolutely no doubt about it. Instead they built their team around Ronaldo to the detriment of on pitch results. At least he's finally managed to beat out Quagliarella and Immobile to the top scorer award though. Happy days for the brand. You Steve Bruce? So its Ronaldo's fault he is the best player in the world that clubs wanna buy,So if Kane came to us and we didn't win the champions league etc would it be his fault? was it shearers? Ronaldo was brought for goals/leadership/brand and that he has done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, astraguy said: You Steve Bruce? So its Ronaldo's fault he is the best player in the world that clubs wanna buy,So if Kane came to us and we didn't win the champions league etc would it be his fault? was it shearers? Ronaldo was brought for goals/leadership/brand and that he has done If only we didn’t sign Shearer, we’d have won the FA Cup, Sir Les would still be here, KK would have stayed... terrible signing if you ask me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, toon25 said: He'll have made them a shit ton in commercial revenue in addition to boosting the team's following internationally, mind Made $60m on Ronaldo shirts in the first hour on sale. Club got about 9m of it. So think over 3 seasons. Edited May 20, 2021 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Made $60m on Ronaldo shirts in the first hour on sale. MUGS, they should have signed Joelinton or someone like Aaron Ramsey the daft cunts. No wonder they didn’t win the league! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 i remember the summer Ronaldo signed for Juventus i went on holiday in 3 different countries that summer , you never went an hour at most without seeing one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Made $60m on Ronaldo shirts in the first hour on sale. Made Adidas £60m. Clubs only get a small cut as they’ll already have their money from the kit maker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I'm sure the Juve Ultras are delighted that they sacrificed a dynasty of domination for shirt sales to the benefit of a German sports brand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: I'm sure the Juve Ultras are delighted that they sacrificed a dynasty of domination for shirt sales to the benefit of a German sports brand. But bought a Ronaldo 7 kit for the entire family anyway still... Isn’t that what also helps drive the success of a Juve? Can’t have your cake and eat it all the time. Anyway this is a ludicrous fucking argument. Sign arguably the joint best player of all time who scores over 100 goals and it’s his fault no title and signing him was such a huge mistake... the stupid argument would be redundant if they actually hired a decent manager and actually did what they did when they they last had one and actually won the league, with Ronaldo top scorer of course. But FAIL... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, LFEE said: Made Adidas £60m. Clubs only get a small cut as they’ll already have their money from the kit maker. This - always have to tell people clubs only get circa 10% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 It’s simply short termism at its finest. Ludicrously expensive contract for an aged player who still performs admirably but is beyond his best years. That extravagant amount of money could and arguably should have been spent on a couple of younger players (or even one Kane type) who would have scored the same goals between them, for less money, and who will stay at the club for longer and provide a better service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mikky said: This - always have to tell people clubs only get circa 10% 6m in shirt sales revenue to the club in an hour of his signing, should have signed Ramsey instead... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, HTT II said: 6m in shirt sales revenue to the club in an hour of his signing, should have signed Ramsey instead... Or you concentrate on building a team to achieve your objectives instead of focusing it on 1 player.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Manxst said: It’s simply short termism at its finest. Ludicrously expensive contract for an aged player who still performs admirably but is beyond his best years. That extravagant amount of money could and arguably should have been spent on a couple of younger players (or even one Kane type) who would have scored the same goals between them, for less money, and who will stay at the club for longer and provide a better service. Or conversely maximise the package of what Ronaldo brings and profit from that with success, but Pirlo, but Ramsey... But... Ronaldo, a waste of money, a mistake, a hue failure, set Juve back years, me if I’m a supporter rather than get upset about 10% earnings from a German company I’d be honoured to witness one of the GOAT in my club’s colours title or no title. Give your heard a shake, that’s why the ESL was dreamed up FFS! Edited May 20, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) We got worse when Shearer joined, doesn't make it Shearer's fault. Edited May 20, 2021 by ToonArmy1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, neesy111 said: Or you concentrate on building a team to achieve your objectives instead of focusing it on 1 player.... That’s not the failure of Ronaldo though... or the folly of his signing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, HTT II said: 6m in shirt sales revenue to the club in an hour of his signing, should have signed Ramsey instead... They did sign Ramsey too though. On a freebie. Because they'd blown their entire budget for the next 4 years on one player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Rio ferdinand/Mike Ashle/Steve Bruce rolled into one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: They did sign Ramsey too though. On a freebie. Because they'd blown their entire budget for the next 4 years on one player. But still spent millions elsewhere, false! Edited May 20, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: They did sign Ramsey too though. On a freebie. Because they'd blown their entire budget for the next 4 years on one player. Club in signing a player on a free shocker, but paid him absolute ridiculous wages... hmmm! Nah, but still, Ronaldo, what a fucking joke of a signing, huge mistake, would have been better if they give all that money to Pirlo to spend on... who? Ridiculous assertions that Ronaldo signing for Juve has set them back man, honestly Guarantee their fans don’t see it that way and feel honoured one of the GOAT wears their colours, again title or no title! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 If only we spent the Shearer money on the reserves... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) The people in this discussion who actually watch Serie A and Juventus regularly have been able to objectively make a reasonable assessment that Ronaldo has scored goals, but that the team has got worse, in a clear and marked decline over the last 3 years in all competitons. His best individual goalscoring season statistically this year has coincided with the teams worst season in terms of actual on pitch results. It's also in terms of actual performances been Ronaldo's worst season as he inevitably declines at this age (and nobody can blame him for that). As I have said previously, Juventus have not historically been a club that signed aging star players for big money. They never have been. They have bought players in their prime or brought through young players and made stars. They also never had problem selling star players for big money - be that Zidane or Pogba. Zidane went and Nedved came and the team was more successful. Pogba went and they made a CL final that season. They have also always had a core of Italian players that was the clubs consistent identity. The signing of a 33 year old which so fundamentally broke their existing wage structure, to a point to where it absolutely hamstrung their ability to spend properly on the squad - represented a fundamental shift in the clubs identity and transfer policy. This has clearly been to their detriment where it actually matters on the pitch - regardless of other failed signings and failed managerial appointments that followed. The above culture shift and resulting economic reality from can be perhaps most clearly summed up with the signing of Chiesa. This is the kind of player they would have signed previously for relatively big money, from another Italian club, but of a good age and on sensible wages. He has undoubtedly been their best performer this season in all the big games - CL, Serie A and in the Coppa Italia final yesterday. However in order to sign him they've had to fudge the books and basically delay most of the transfer fee by a season. This is a direct result of bad squad building and bad fiscal management in previous years - of which Ronaldo, for all his goals, is emblematic of. But anyway. This is a boring argument. Because with Ronaldo and Messi fanboys it is seemingly impossible to engage in rational discussion. Edited May 20, 2021 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 So it comes down to ‘fan boys’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, HTT II said: So it comes down to ‘fan boys’ Aye, nowt to do with him being one of the best players of all time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 hours ago, HTT II said: If only we spent the Shearer money on the reserves... If only we'd spent the Owen money on the reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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