MarkyMark Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, Heron said: What I'd argue is that we weren't (aren't) even fit enough. That's the difference. However, I think it'd be naive to overlook the fact Howe's looking to play a more expansive style rather than grinding out results too. He has flaws, as we all do, but I have faith in us doing this still. Howe's methods will work in time. The shocking lack of fitness was an absolute disgrace - and the press somehow ignoring that just as disgraceful. I find it harder to give Howe lots of credit for getting the players fit - I mean, that should be a basic requirement; our expectations need to be higher. Bruce deserves all the criticism though - it’s negligence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, MarkyMark said: The shocking lack of fitness was an absolute disgrace - and the press somehow ignoring that just as disgraceful. I find it harder to give Howe lots of credit for getting the players fit - I mean, that should be a basic requirement; our expectations need to be higher. Bruce deserves all the criticism though - it’s negligence. Aye, that's absolutely gross negligence from all at the club. The players I can kinda understand because if they "overtrained" and got injured they'd have been bollocked. But Ashley down it's a fucking joke. I agree it's not so much a success that Howe's tried to fix it, it's just no longer a failure... Hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Has to be said, I still think a Norwich win is as good a result for us as a draw. The longer the four teams are grouped together the more chance we have of pulling away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MarkyMark said: The shocking lack of fitness was an absolute disgrace - and the press somehow ignoring that just as disgraceful. I find it harder to give Howe lots of credit for getting the players fit - I mean, that should be a basic requirement; our expectations need to be higher. Bruce deserves all the criticism though - it’s negligence. You can guarantee one thing if we go down, it’ll be nowt to do with Bruce or Ashley. The press will have a field day sticking the knife into the Saudis and Staveley. Edited January 21, 2022 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) 1 win all season and potentially only 5 points from safety. The 10 minutes stoppage time will probably have some drama tbh. Edited January 21, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 We are actually the worst team in the league. I knew we were bad but I always sort of thought there were a few just a little bit worse, not this season though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Think that's a horrendous result tbh. Norwich easily looking the most likely to get out of this now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, MarkyMark said: Has to be said, I still think a Norwich win is as good a result for us as a draw. The longer the four teams are grouped together the more chance we have of pulling away Before the game I thought a draw was best but now I don't. Dennis geyting a red, us having 2 games in hand on Norwich and having to go there and Burnley, I'd far rather be chasing Norwich than Watford because at least it could come down to our games vs them. Have to say I think Norwich look strongest out the four at present... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Tomorrow really is a must win. Impossible. We are absolutely dog shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Ranieri’s gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said: We are actually the worst team in the league. I knew we were bad but I always sort of thought there were a few just a little bit worse, not this season though. Yeah, we really are like. We have a few individuals that are better than anything the others have, but as a whole I think we're the worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, Whitley mag said: You can guarantee one thing I’d we go down, it’ll be nowt to do with Bruce or Ashley. The press will have a field day sticking the knife into the Saudis and Staveley. It’ll be quickly forgotten - but I imagine the press will be too busy taking the piss. Relegation wouldn’t leave the new owners or management blameless - there was time to turn it round - but if I was doing it on %s, it would be an 80-20 split in terms of responsibility. Years and years of neglect - and of course, luck has played its part for the last couple of years. But as Norwich are showing, you can make your own luck, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Jesus wept Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 It has to be said, I haven't got a clue about football anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Think that's a horrendous result tbh. Norwich easily looking the most likely to get out of this now. In the here and now it's fine, a few games down the line you might be right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 How good is Dean Smith? I felt he deserved a job at a better club than Norwich after what he did with Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: How did we not beat these Because our players have a heart, the size of a pea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: How did we not beat these We’re a team full of losers. Until the majority of them are replaced we’re going to keep losing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Not a bad result this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, DJ_NUFC said: How good is Dean Smith? I felt he deserved a job at a better club than Norwich after what he did with Villa. Cannot use a PowerPoint though *ducks* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, Awaymag said: Because our players have a heart, the size of a pea They are just on another level of shitness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: How did we not beat these Because football's fucking mad, man. We were far better against Norwich with 10 men and now they're beating Watford 3-0 Edited January 21, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said: Ranieri’s gone. On the basis of this Howe should be gone for last week alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Think that's a horrendous result tbh. Norwich easily looking the most likely to get out of this now. If Watford would have won surely you'd have said the same? They'd have been 5 clear with a game in hand. Norwich are 4 clear having played 2 games more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: You can guarantee one thing if we go down, it’ll be nowt to do with Bruce or Ashley. The press will have a field day sticking the knife into the Saudis and Staveley. Of course Bruce and Ashley should be held partly responsible, but Howe has had 2/3rds of a season where the teams around us have been dogshit. Smith has gone to Norwich who are diabolical and has double the points total of Howe with us and they’re now out of the relegation zone. It’s hard to constantly blame the players for being shit when a CB pairing of Hanley (who wasn’t good enough for us five years ago) and Gibson are playing better than ours. Edited January 21, 2022 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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