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1 hour ago, astraguy said:

 

another country completed 

If completed means going to a team that wins everything and them steadily getting worse every season you're there then yes

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16 minutes ago, triggs said:

If completed means going to a team that wins everything and them steadily getting worse every season you're there then yes

He has just scored 36 goals in 44 as a 35/36 year old. :lol:

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Juve have been ran incredibly poor recently. Some terrible recruitment and managerial appointments that haven't made any sense. Midfield is so bad for what is supposed to be one of the top sides in Europe too. 

Ronaldo has been good for them, I don't think anyone can deny that. But they gambled on him being able to carry them to a Champions league irrespective of cost and it's backfired. They've created a huge problem for themselves where their best player doesn't really suit the style of play they've been trying to move towards with Sarri and now Pirlo and and they've had to cut corners elsewhere recruitment wise to afford him. Tactically and financially Ronaldo is a burden on them despite how many goals he's scored, but it's a bit daft to try and pin the blame on him. 

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Cristiano Ronaldo at Juventus:Seasons: 3  Games: 133  Goals: 101 Assists: 22

Incredible juve wouldn't be the top 6 without him this season,juve messed up appointing pirlo who has never managed a game before 

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2 hours ago, triggs said:

Well done. Barely any against good teams and his team has gone from 1st to 5th

Nothing to do with hiring a manager with zero experience? Lets blame it on Ronaldo, back to back Serie A player of the year who's about to win the Capocannoniere at an absolute canter with 29+ goals. :lol: 

Absolutely ridiculous viewpoint.

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1 minute ago, Froggy said:

Nothing to do with hiring a manager with zero experience? Lets blame it on Ronaldo, back to back Serie A player of the year who's about to win the Capocannoniere at an absolute canter with 29+ goals. :lol: 

Absolutely ridiculous viewpoint.

It's more to do with signing Ronaldo at the expense of the rest of the team than Pirlo. They were already in a steep decline before this season getting knocked out by Ajax and Lyon in consecutive seasons in the CL after being in the top 3 or 4 teams in Europe for however many years before that and not winning the Coppa Italia in his first 2 seasons after winning 4 in a row before that

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1 minute ago, Froggy said:

Nothing to do with hiring a manager with zero experience? Lets blame it on Ronaldo, back to back Serie A player of the year who's about to win the Capocannoniere at an absolute canter with 29+ goals. :lol: 

Absolutely ridiculous viewpoint.

To add to that wasn't he injuried a fair chuck of this season? Or was that last? I still remember people saying he won't find it as easy scoring past teams in Italy just to the defence eliminate

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It's not fair to use previous success of a team as judgement against a new player, especially one who has come in and fired in a ridiculous amount of goals. No team stays at the top forever, there's issues all over that Juve squad that have been lingering for years.

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Of course it is fair. The team has got demonstrably worse year on year since he joined. If they'd spent his 100 million fee and 32 million a year wages on refreshing the team they'd be better off. There is absolutely no doubt about it.

Instead they built their team around Ronaldo to the detriment of on pitch results. At least he's finally managed to beat out Quagliarella and Immobile to the top scorer award though. Happy days for the brand. 

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21 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Of course it is fair. The team has got demonstrably worse year on year since he joined. If they'd spent his 100 million fee and 32 million a year wages on refreshing the team they'd be better off. There is absolutely no doubt about it.

Instead they built their team around Ronaldo to the detriment of on pitch results. At least he's finally managed to beat out Quagliarella and Immobile to the top scorer award though. Happy days for the brand. 

You Steve Bruce? So its Ronaldo's fault he is the best player in the world that clubs wanna buy,So if Kane came to us [emoji38] and we didn't win the champions league etc would it be his fault? was it shearers? Ronaldo was brought for goals/leadership/brand and that he has done

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1 minute ago, astraguy said:

You Steve Bruce? So its Ronaldo's fault he is the best player in the world that clubs wanna buy,So if Kane came to us [emoji38] and we didn't win the champions league etc would it be his fault? was it shearers? Ronaldo was brought for goals/leadership/brand and that he has done

If only we didn’t sign Shearer, we’d have won the FA Cup, Sir Les would still be here, KK would have stayed... terrible signing if you ask me!

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Just now, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

Made $60m on Ronaldo shirts in the first hour on sale.

MUGS, they should have signed Joelinton or someone like Aaron Ramsey the daft cunts. No wonder they didn’t win the league!

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5 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

Made $60m on Ronaldo shirts in the first hour on sale.

Made Adidas £60m. Clubs only get a small cut as they’ll already have their money from the kit maker.

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1 minute ago, ponsaelius said:

I'm sure the Juve Ultras are delighted that they sacrificed a dynasty of domination for shirt sales to the benefit of a German sports brand. 

But bought a Ronaldo 7 kit for the entire family anyway still...

Isn’t that what also helps drive the success of a Juve? Can’t have your cake and eat it all the time. Anyway this is a ludicrous fucking argument. Sign arguably the joint  best player of all time who scores over 100 goals and it’s his fault no title and signing him was such a huge mistake... the stupid argument would be redundant if they actually hired a decent manager and actually did what they did when they they last had one and actually won the league, with Ronaldo top scorer of course. But FAIL...

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12 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Made Adidas £60m. Clubs only get a small cut as they’ll already have their money from the kit maker.

This - always have to tell people clubs only get circa 10%

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It’s simply short termism at its finest. Ludicrously expensive contract for an aged player who still performs admirably but is beyond his best years. That extravagant amount of money could and arguably should have been spent on a couple of younger players (or even one Kane type) who would have scored the same goals between them, for less money, and who will stay at the club for longer and provide a better service. 

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2 minutes ago, Mikky said:

This - always have to tell people clubs only get circa 10%

6m in shirt sales revenue to the club in an hour of his signing, should have signed Ramsey instead...

 

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3 minutes ago, HTT II said:

6m in shirt sales revenue to the club in an hour of his signing, should have signed Ramsey instead...

 

Or you concentrate on building a team to achieve your objectives instead of focusing it on 1 player....

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