Stuy_O Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I agree, but although it seems to have paid off for them, it was a massive gamble. Regardless of what we think of pardew, I personally wouldn't want us to change managers at such a late stage. As Shearer proved, a new boss, late on doesn't always work. It wasn't much of a gamble because they would have gone down if they hadn't acted. 100% believe this Spot on, they headed into oblivion with good old Marty. however this upturn is remarkably similar to when Marty first arrived Few of my mackem mates at work reckon this aswell like, say they were 100% gone. I actually thought they would have scraped over the line but I don't watch them on a weekly basis like them. They also say they would have been beaten opponents before a ball was kicked in the derby, no matter how bad we were. The main thing is that Di Canio has them attacking at least and looking to score. An attribute highly rare under MON. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Is it more than just having them more motivated? Honest question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Is it more than just having them more motivated? Honest question. Nope, he actually has changed some things tactically too. They press higher and get more players forward when in possession. ( two things i wish Pardew would do also) I assume you are talking about Di Canio yes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Is it more than just having them more motivated? Honest question. Nope, he actually has changed some things tactically too. They press higher and get more players forward when in possession. ( two things i wish Pardew would do also) I assume you are talking about Di Canio yes? Yes, wondering whether he's actually done anything other than get them to be more energetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 That aswell, but they look more dangerous already. Clearly shifted their stance in games. That said, I still say they were there for the taking when we played them. Our approach to the game was criminal and they capitalised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 That aswell, but they look more dangerous already. Clearly shifted their stance in games. That said, I still say they were there for the taking when we played them. Our approach to the game was criminal and they capitalised. Of course, we probably would have done if Cisse's goal was allowed but alas that is gone now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The disallowed goal was terrible but we've had loads of fortune all season really. Nufc.com had it down spot on - said luck runs out. We've had plenty and that was the game it ran out on. Inevitable really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I don't think we've been particularly lucky. Not with injurys. Had decisions 'even themselves out' to use that old cliche. Got lucky at reading, not so at Wigan etc, but I don't think we've had more luck than others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Is it more than just having them more motivated? Honest question. Doubt it. Nothing different to what happens under any new manager; players try harder for a number of matches. We'll see next season if he's any good, for now it's simply job done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I doubt this is more than a honeymoon period for Di Klanio. Itll be the same bump that MON got at the start and I'm in no doubt that things will end badly. But he's kept them up and has already paid off Short's gamble. I doubt theyll get this close to relegation for a while. Itll be Wigan that goes down, unless Norwich beat Stoke - which might put them back in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Is it more than just having them more motivated? Honest question. Doubt it. Nothing different to what happens under any new manager; players try harder for a number of matches. We'll see next season if he's any good, for now it's simply job done. I think you are probably right given the momentum they now have and the games they have left to play - but they still only have 37 points right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Is it more than just having them more motivated? Honest question. Doubt it. Nothing different to what happens under any new manager; players try harder for a number of matches. We'll see next season if he's any good, for now it's simply job done. Aye, new manager bounce and nowt more in my john humble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I doubt this is more than a honeymoon period for Di Klanio. Itll be the same bump that MON got at the start and I'm in no doubt that things will end badly. But he's kept them up and has already paid off Short's gamble. I doubt theyll get this close to relegation for a while. Itll be Wigan that goes down, unless Norwich beat Stoke - which might put them back in trouble. It's Wigan, they will get out of it. Villa are the ones going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Well, you couldn't wish for a shitter team to play, so I'm content to take my chances. Nothing's guaranteed obviously. I don't think we've got a great record at Loftus Road. If we come back with a point we'll have done well IMO, especially with Remy looking on fire. A point there, one at West Ham, and maybe another one somewhere might just be enough. Weren't our last 3 results: 0-0 draw 1-0 win 3-2 win As far as I remember. I think even in our shit we've got a decent chancing of winning that, but not too confident. Very unlikely Wigan will turn over 6 points while Villa also turn over 3 on us, in 4 games (5) Wigan, I think Villa are losing their momentum after tonight. And Wigan have to play Villa. Mental though that we're even still talking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Villa absolutely have to beat the mackems now. If we don't win on Saturday we're going to have to be backing the fascists on Monday night.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'm backing anyone playing Villa and Wigan, Sunderland aren't going to go down now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'm backing anyone playing Villa and Wigan, Sunderland aren't going to go down now. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 A win for us and a win for Wigan on saturday will mean a very interesting game at Vile Park on monday evening!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roy the Irish Magpie Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 We need to do anything possible to be two points ahead of Villa and Wigan come the final game. If Cisse is injured there goes th hope of scoring on Saturday but I still think we could get something from QPR if needs be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Just got to beat either West Ham or QPR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Just got to beat either West Ham or QPR. A point a game and we'll be okay though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I think 40 pts will put us safe, one more win or 3 draws. That would mean villa winning 2 of four and pulling back 10 goals on us to overtake and Wigan winning 3 of 5 and pulling back 7 goals on us to overtake. I just don't see both those situations happening along with all the other teams on 37/38 points staying ahead of us. Beat Liverpool on Saturday and we can start to relax a little. If Suarez is suspended, I think there is a good chance of that happening now, a loss though in that game and I think it's a 3 horse race for that last spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'm backing anyone playing Villa and Wigan, Sunderland aren't going to go down now. I know it's crazy, but I know I'll still end up wanting Villa to beat Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'm backing anyone playing Villa and Wigan, Sunderland aren't going to go down now. I know it's crazy, but I know I'll still end up wanting Villa to beat Sunderland. If we beat Liverpool, so will I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'm backing anyone playing Villa and Wigan, Sunderland aren't going to go down now. I know it's crazy, but I know I'll still end up wanting Villa to beat Sunderland. If we beat Liverpool, so will I. Oh aye, if we beat Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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