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Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP


Will the takeover be complete by this summer?  

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Torturing myself with false hope maybe, but the more I think about this the more I think it could be a final play to force the PL to make a decision.

 

As it stands, by not making any decision the PL have demonstrably cost the buyers £17m. If the PL had refused the test they would've got the deposit back and if they had approved it it would've been their choice whether to go ahead or not.

 

The PL are now in a position where not making a decision leaves them potentially liable to legal action likely to cost them at least £17m plus legal costs, because they have directly caused the loss of the deposit by not making a decision.

 

Also, if they do make a decision now only an approval could potentially head off that risk, because then the buyers would still have the ability to decide to go ahead.

 

This puts the PL in the position that their best chance of avoiding very costly legal action is to issue an approval as soon as possible.

 

I was thinking down a similar thought process but surely this would have been discussed privately with the parties involved? With the information that’s come out and the consortium seemingly putting the entire blame on the Premier League it doesn’t really add up for me.

 

They seem to be claiming the issue isn’t with Ashley or a second bidder. Fine. They’re claiming they’ve answered every question posed and the withdrawal is directly related to the Premier League not making a decision or putting a date on the decision. So why pull out then in this big toys out of the pram style of demonstration. I’m absolutely no business expert here but if they’ve been involved this long and we’re truly winding down to the last stages here what’s another couple of weeks? All parties agreed to pull out, why?

 

I think I agree with most here it’s a formal withdrawal, there’s nothing for the Premier League to do anymore. They’ve made the process so obtuse and beyond the realms of the O&D test that the buyers have backed off without putting them into a situation where they’ve had to make a decision upsetting a sponsor.

 

I don’t think enough of the focus is on why they’ve pulled out though. The dangling of the unlikely carrot is frustrating by them and another party involved in this with a complete disregard for the fan base. No one has lost more than us during this whole process and when this takeover disappears out of the news by the new season we’ll be expected to lap up the shit football and know our place.

 

Staveley has said the O&D test is still open, the PL have not been formally informed of their withdrawal.

 

Putting out press statements isn't formally withdrawing from the process. There will be a reason why this is being played out so publicly, and directed so squarely at the PL.

To enable the UK Government to step in?

 

I don't think they can in any formal way. I think ministers probably already have behind the scenes and it hasn't had any influence.

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I’m also confused why they were due to release a statement to put pressure on the Premier League but decided to withdraw instead. Staveley’s comments about it being up to the fans to put pressure on the Premier League are massively unfair also. The fan base is broken by the whole process.

 

Im sure the same journalists that have attacked the process with such gusto will be putting in the same effort to get some answers for us though. I’m sure they’ll be putting the same scrutiny on the clubs direction come the start of the season too.

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It will be interesting to see if the consortium go after the premier league, and also leaves the PL in a difficult position. The chinese cannot go after a PL club, Leicester owners aren't exactly squeaky clean,bearing in mind the previous controversy around those people so it's been stated. I believe there maybe other such owners also, they will also need to  go down the route of sponsorship and see whether those people are fit and proper.I think the PL have opened up one hell of a can of worms here.

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It will be interesting to see if the consortium go after the premier league, and also leaves the PL in a difficult position. The chinese cannot go after a PL club, Leicester owners aren't exactly squeaky clean,bearing in mind the previous controversy around those people so it's been stated. I believe there maybe other such owners also, they will also need to  go down the route of sponsorship and see whether those people are fit and proper.I think the PL have opened up one hell of a can of worms here.

 

I don’t think they have though. They’ve been given an out. They don’t have to do or say anything bar likely a few non-specific words about a confidential process. Then everything will just rumble on.

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How can the O&D process still be open for a group that don’t have an actively agreed bid in with a club?

 

Technically that has been the case since the contract of sale expired but the test has still been going on.

 

Staveley has clearly indicated that the O&D test process is still open.

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Torturing myself with false hope maybe, but the more I think about this the more I think it could be a final play to force the PL to make a decision.

 

As it stands, by not making any decision the PL have demonstrably cost the buyers £17m. If the PL had refused the test they would've got the deposit back and if they had approved it it would've been their choice whether to go ahead or not.

 

The PL are now in a position where not making a decision leaves them potentially liable to legal action likely to cost them at least £17m plus legal costs, because they have directly caused the loss of the deposit by not making a decision.

 

Also, if they do make a decision now only an approval could potentially head off that risk, because then the buyers would still have the ability to decide to go ahead.

 

This puts the PL in the position that their best chance of avoiding very costly legal action is to issue an approval as soon as possible.

 

That’s not actually the case though. If the takeover of the bid had been rejected by the PL, then the deposit was due to be refunded. Having withdrawn their bid, they forfeited that deposit.

 

They would have to argue that the PLs actions amounted to an “in effect” rejection of the takeover, as opposed to an explicit rejection. I’d hate to have to make that argument.

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How can the O&D process still be open for a group that don’t have an actively agreed bid in with a club?

 

Technically that has been the case since the contract of sale expired but the test has still been going on.

 

Staveley has clearly indicated that the O&D test process is still open.

 

So the theory being that yesterday’s events were just to allow the consortium to put massive pressure on the PL but at cost of £15m (or whatever the exact deposit was)?

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This feels a bit like when Keegan walked out the second time and there were murmurs from sources he could be talked around. It’s false hope.

 

Correct. This deal is dead.

 

For the premier league it’s job done.

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Torturing myself with false hope maybe, but the more I think about this the more I think it could be a final play to force the PL to make a decision.

 

As it stands, by not making any decision the PL have demonstrably cost the buyers £17m. If the PL had refused the test they would've got the deposit back and if they had approved it it would've been their choice whether to go ahead or not.

 

The PL are now in a position where not making a decision leaves them potentially liable to legal action likely to cost them at least £17m plus legal costs, because they have directly caused the loss of the deposit by not making a decision.

 

Also, if they do make a decision now only an approval could potentially head off that risk, because then the buyers would still have the ability to decide to go ahead.

 

This puts the PL in the position that their best chance of avoiding very costly legal action is to issue an approval as soon as possible.

 

That’s not actually the case though. If the takeover of the bid had been rejected by the PL, then the deposit was due to be refunded. Having withdrawn their bid, they forfeited that deposit.

 

They would have to argue that the PLs actions amounted to an “in effect” rejection of the takeover, as opposed to an explicit rejection. I’d hate to have to make that argument.

 

But they are clearly sowing the seeds of that argument saying that the deal is no longer financially viable due to the delay in the process and putting the blame entirely on the PL.

 

Staveley has clearly shown herself to be litigious. I expect there will be a pre-action letter with the PL very soon, if not already.

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Anyone with a subscription who could copy/paste that article, or isn't that allowed in here?

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It hasn’t sunk in, not quite, and there are moments when she is weeping and there are moments when she is pulsing with energy and anger. There are moments when she accepts this unhappy ending and there are moments when she is less sure about what it all entails and what might happen next. “I don’t know,” she says. “I don’t want to give up.” And then she asks: “What would you do?”

 

Thirty months after Amanda Staveley’s first attempt to buy Newcastle United hit the buffers, here we are again: this clenched fist to the stomach. But this is worse. It hurts more. There is a financial hit for the businesswoman and her family, but what really aches is how close they came. How a restless club famous for its lack of success, for its truncated ambition and its mighty, yearning support, almost touched the big-time.

 

“I’m absolutely devastated,” she says. “I’m so upset, I don’t know how to express it. I’m heartbroken. I can barely speak. I believe  we weren’t just the right partners for Newcastle, we were the only partners.”

 

A brief recap: in 2017-18, Staveley’s PCP Capital Partners submitted three bids to purchase Newcastle from Mike Ashley, the retail billionaire. Discussions broke down in acrimony, but Staveley did not go away. For the last year and more, she has been building a consortium, 10 per cent financed by her, 10 per cent by the Reuben family and 80 per cent by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF).

 

It is the last bit that has proved so contentious, with the Premier League sifting through their Owners’ and Directors’ Test for 16 long and frustrating weeks. You might have thought that the hard work had been done. Over his 13 years at St James’ Park, Ashley has been known as a difficult owner and a difficult seller, but a £300 million deal was agreed and signed, a £17 million deposit was paid (and is now lost), and all that was left was regulatory approval.

 

First came the protests about Saudi and human rights. Then came the disputes about television piracy, the geopolitics. After months of mixed signals — the consortium were given “private assurances” on at least two occasions that the Premier League would wave the deal through, sources insist — there were then further demands about Newcastle’s proposed ownership structure. It was too much. Led by PIF, the group pulled out.

 

“The Premier League wanted the country, Saudi, to become a director of the football club,” Staveley says. “That’s what this is about. They were effectively saying ‘PIF wouldn’t be the ultimate beneficial owner, we believe it’s actually the government, therefore we want the country to become a director’, which puts them in an impossible situation. They feel they weren’t wanted by the Premier League.

 

“I hope the fans realise what’s happened, that this is a lot more complicated than it might seem. I want them to understand the whole thing about the directorship, that it would be impossible for a state to become a director. The Premier League made it so hard. It would be unprecedented. No country has ever become a director of a club. It’s ridiculous.

 

“They were saying ‘you know what, we won’t reject you but we won’t approve you either, so we’ll just sit here for month after month’. They could have told us all this before we exchanged. It’s up to the fans now. Because if the fans want this back on then they’re going to have to go to the Premier League and say this isn’t fair.” The Premier League declined to comment on the specifics of the failed takeover attempt.

 

The irony is that Newcastle supporters have been the least relevant, least consulted group of all. They have waited and fretted, been told what they should think and feel by pundits, journalists, politicians and pressure groups, but they have never had a say, beyond making their own feelings clear. And, in that sense, they were definitive: 96.7 per cent of the Newcastle United Supporters Trust’s 10,000-plus members answered positively when asked if they wished the takeover to go ahead.

 

It is not hard to understand why, for all that many will have felt conflicted about the moral and ethical questions being flung at them. Newcastle could be so much more; more than they are, more than the 13th best team in the Premier League, and here were owners with the resources to take them there. Here was their opportunity. And finally, after all those doubts, Ashley wanted out, too.

 

“We had a plan for £250 million of investment in the club over the first few years, as much as we could put in,” Staveley says. “And on top of that, we had massive plans to invest in the city, in housing, everything. We talked with the council. Newcastle are the last great untapped club. The last great club with so much potential to grow and improve and with a fanbase who were already there and who wanted it so much.”

 

It was about emotion, too. “I fell in love with Newcastle,” she says. “I fell in love with the passion, the fans. It was just this incredible club. And I knew that with investment and nurturing it could become even better. It needed TLC. It needed a patient owner. It desperately needs investment. That day we first walked into St James’ … it felt like we had come home. We knew what they needed. We wanted it, too. And I know we could have done it.”

 

‘That day’ came at home to Liverpool in October 2017, below. Staveley and Mehrdad Ghodoussi, her husband, were invited to watch Newcastle’s 1-1 draw by friends and associates. Word had got out; they were spotted and serenaded. She had been involved in Sheikh Mansour’s purchase of Manchester City and an unsuccessful bid to buy Liverpool. She was looking for a club and Newcastle had it all.

 

“That day we first walked in, it was a dark, grey evening against Liverpool,” Ghodoussi tells The Athletic. “You walked in, up the stairs, through the directors’ area and out into the stadium and you just felt this tremendous energy. It was incredible. As a Londoner, I’d go to Chelsea or Tottenham Hotspur games and I’d never experienced anything like it. Amanda and I just looked at each other and said, ‘this is it. This is the club we should be buying.’

 

Their first go at it fell through in January 2018 when Ashley pulled the plug. Sources close to Ashley briefed Sky Sports News that negotiations had been “exhausting, frustrating and a complete waste of time”. Staveley was distraught, telling The Times, “The suggestion that we were either wasting time or not serious is absurd. It’s hurtful. Hugely hurtful.” She was “very much still interested in buying Newcastle,” she said.

 

Ashley has a vivid history of baffling decisions in his tenure at Newcastle, but on this occasion, no blame is attached. When the original deadline for the completion of this deal expired in late June — nobody had considered that the Premier League might take so long to reach a verdict — he manoeuvred for more money, but Staveley does not resent that.

 

“Please don’t think there was any argument between Mike and I because there wasn’t,” she says. “All this crap about Mike and I not getting on … We get on very well. There’s no issue with Mike. None at all. We had a deal agreed. Yes, there was a bit more money on the table, but we agreed it.”

 

“When things went public the first time, it became hard at various points, but ultimately we got beyond that,” Ghodoussi says. “We agreed a deal with him. And yes, he played around with numbers, but we were happy to pay what we needed to pay. The reason the deal failed is because of the Premier League not because of Mike. That’s really important.”

 

“Mike is as disappointed as we are,” Staveley says. “He’s devastated, too.”

 

What about the reports that other potential buyers are already lining up? That Henry Mauriss, the American chief executive of ClearTV Media, is waiting in the wings with £350 million? “There aren’t other bids. It’s rubbish,” Staveley says.

 

And what about Newcastle’s peers and rivals? “We know that other clubs briefed heavily against it. Because they were jealous.”

 

This was Staveley’s baby; she would have run the club on the consortium’s behalf, joined on the prospective board by Ghodoussi, Jamie Reuben and Yasir Al-Rumayyan, the governor of PIF. In spite of all the noise and flak and turmoil, they are adamant that their approach was sound.

 

“When we first tried to buy Newcastle, we tried to bring in a Chinese partner, but we realised that it’s not just about buying a club, it’s about being able to invest in that club, it’s about being able to invest in the community, the academy and the infrastructure,” Ghodoussi says. “That takes a lot. You need a strong partner to be able to do that. And the reason we went out and approached PIF — it wasn’t PIF wanting to buy Newcastle — and put a deal in front of them was because they saw and understood and believed in our vision.

 

“It wasn’t about sports-washing. If they wanted to do do that, they could have gone out and bought Manchester United for £3 billion and got 500 million supporters overnight. It was a passion from Yasir (Al-Rumayyan, the governor of the PIF), who is an avid sportsman. It fitted into Saudi Vision 2030, where they are diversifying into new investment, building relationships with communities.

 

“They genuinely felt a kinship to Newcastle. We presented it in a way where they genuinely believed in it and saw it as a long-term project to develop the club, to invest in the community and the academy — that was so important.

 

“Amanda and I will get up and dust ourselves down. We’ve lived and breathed this for three years. We’ve suffered a loss financially, as well, but what is heartbreaking and really upsetting — and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, as does Amanda — is what this will mean for the fans. For some of them, this is their life. They go to work, they come home and the one silver lining is watching Newcastle at St James’. Growing up, it’s the passion they put into the club.”

 

And now, once again, supporters have invested hope. And now, once again, hope has been snatched from their grasp.

 

Does Staveley have any left? For a little while, she breaks off. “I’m crying, I’m sorry,” she says. She knew what she wanted to say if and when the takeover had been passed. A mission statement was prepared and practised. She would have talked about ambition and drive, about getting to the Champions League, about communicating with fans, embracing club legends, funding the women’s team, reaching out to local businesses and institutions.

 

Instead, it is this.

 

“I’m trying very hard to understand,” she says. “Today is probably not the right day … I need to figure out if there is any route through this.”

 

“Even now, if the Premier League came to us and said ‘we will approve you’ we would do this deal tomorrow, all three parties of the consortium,” Ghodoussi says.

 

“Mike has agreed, we’ve agreed, the Reubens, PIF,” says Staveley. “The only reason the deal won’t get done is because the Premier League won’t pass it. Everybody is just so, so sad.”

 

Is there a chance, however slim?

 

“I don’t know,” she says. “I just don’t know. I don’t want to give up, but I can’t do it on my own. I’ve tried. I’ve tried and I’ve tried and I’ve tried. You need investment. You can’t just buy a club with no investment behind you. You need £600-700 million minimum, to do a deal like this. That was all in place.”

 

She breaks off again. “I can’t believe it,” she says.

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Its a bit like the Keegan case as in constructive dismissal - the PL have engineered a situation where any self respecting bidder would walk away due to frustration

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I guess that links in with people are saying above

 

Indeed but as far as the PL are the concerned it hasn’t materially changed anything.

 

They will talk about the ongoing process being robust and the checks still pending completion. They will say the can’t approve it until the checks are complete.

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Disappointed but not entirely surprised that the national press don't seem to feel the PL have some explaining to do

 

Why would they it's not in there interests.

 

There will be a few noises in the Chronicle and the Shields Gazette but thats about it.

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Its a bit like the Keegan case as in constructive dismissal - the PL have engineered a situation where any self respecting bidder would walk away due to frustration

 

Fair play to the number of posters on here who predicted that only to be shot down.

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They’re being accused of dragging it out and bowing to the wishes of other clubs. Pretty sure they’ll not want that putting a question mark over its integrity. Would only take a short statement to rubbish it and to prove Staveley to be the liar people say she is and to clear their name.

Tomorrows chip wrappers. There will no damage to their integrity. We are small fry so the news will be forgotten soon enough. No one cares.

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Its a bit like the Keegan case as in constructive dismissal - the PL have engineered a situation where any self respecting bidder would walk away due to frustration

 

Fair play to the number of posters on here who predicted that only to be shot down.

 

I guess it’s proven to be massive naivety on my part but I just didn’t foresee an entity like the PIF walking away in response to something like that.

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I kinda thought it would go through eventually but there were some spinning that the delay almost like it made it more inevitable which always seemed a bit mad. New rule with takeovers, if not done in a month just forget about it.

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Its a bit like the Keegan case as in constructive dismissal - the PL have engineered a situation where any self respecting bidder would walk away due to frustration

 

Fair play to the number of posters on here who predicted that only to be shot down.

 

I guess it’s proven to be massive naivety on my part but I just didn’t foresee an entity like the PIF walking away in response to something like that.

 

Slight off topic but in the movie Ronin with DiNero. Sam says

 

Whenever there is doubt, there is no doubt.

 

It's just stuck with me through the years and tbh it's spot on

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They’re being accused of dragging it out and bowing to the wishes of other clubs. Pretty sure they’ll not want that putting a question mark over its integrity. Would only take a short statement to rubbish it and to prove Staveley to be the liar people say she is and to clear their name.

Tomorrows chip wrappers. There will no damage to their integrity. We are small fry so the news will be forgotten soon enough. No one cares.

 

Don’t think it’s as simple as that. If Staveley’s claims are true then they should be transparent with their reasoning and stop hiding. If Staveley’s talking bullshit, it’s in their best interest to say as such surely?

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They’re being accused of dragging it out and bowing to the wishes of other clubs. Pretty sure they’ll not want that putting a question mark over its integrity. Would only take a short statement to rubbish it and to prove Staveley to be the liar people say she is and to clear their name.

Tomorrows chip wrappers. There will no damage to their integrity. We are small fry so the news will be forgotten soon enough. No one cares.

Don’t think it’s as simple as that. If Staveley’s claims are true then they should be transparent with their reasoning and stop hiding. If Staveley’s talking bullshit, it’s in their best interest to say as such surely?

Who cares about what she is saying though, apart from us. No one cares about whether there is any truth in what she says. Fans and media are too busy laughing at us to care about the truth.

I'd love you to be right and for this to drag out into something legal but we just don't hold any weight as a club or fanbase.

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