Jackie Broon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, HTT II said: Can we not have a mass clear out a league up? I’ve never got the notion of needing to go down to rebuild. Relegation wouldn’t prevent the owners from going after their long term goals, but it’s a spanner in the works and would be very damaging short-term. Let’s not be blasé about relegation. It would be very damaging in terms of FFP, especially if we spaff a load more money in this window and still go down. The positive position we have now in terms of FFP would be completely gone and our hands would be pretty tied in building from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Nar it's a long term project, 2030 is the Saudi's target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, LV said: Yeah, I hate it. Ive been in a proper bad mood since Watford equalised yesterday. Yesterday was huge. Season defining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I have several friends originally from SA and they say relegation would be deemed a huge embarrassment for the rulers of SA and a sign of sovereign weakness. I’m hoping if true, they will go all out to give us the best chance possible by strengthening the team with new players, again they don’t have to be super stars or Botman type big money buys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I’m sure Amanda and Mehrdad are well intentioned and only want the best for the club, but they are not football people at the end of the day. Their biggest mistake so far has been not to bring in an experienced DOF. Should have been the first appointment before even bringing a manager in. They’ll get it right eventually. Hopefully eventually won’t be too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Biggsbond14 said: Noticed leeds have 3 games in hand as of now so serious shit if they pick up points and also beat us then that will only leave us and Watford possibly fighting down here unless Everton get deeper in the dirt We need to strengthen the spine, CM and CB will be the only way out of the mess for me. And if we don't we're done, and as you say it's between us, Watford along with Norwich and Burnley for the 3 places. I suppose someone else might get dragged in, can't see myself though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, LV said: Yeah, I hate it. Ive been in a proper bad mood since Watford equalised yesterday. Aye same here, I’m in a better mood now after my boy scored 2 in a 3-1 win against arguably one of the best teams in the NE today who usually beat us, every kid of theirs is either in the elite academy set up at NUFC or SAFC (some both). We battered them and it should have been 7 or 8 not 3. Yesterday was utterly rank, however. 3 minutes or so to go man FFS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Just now, HTT II said: Aye same here, I’m in a better mood now after my boy scored 2 in a 3-1 win against arguably one of the best teams in the NE today who usually beat us, every kid of theirs is either in the elite academy set up at NUFC or SAFC (some both). We battered them and it should have been 7 or 8 not 3. Yesterday was utterly rank, however. 3 minutes or so to go man FFS! well done HTT jr! Whats his availability for the Leeds match? Edited January 16, 2022 by LV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, LV said: well done HTT jr! Best he’s played today, he knows most of the kids from the other team and seems to turn it on against the better teams/players, very frustrating, but I was super proud today, you can’t beat watching talented 8 year olds play like Man City to beat, well, a Man City type team at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Bimpy474 said: We are literally only two points, two points from safety I grant you it doesn't look good, but we're obviously going to buy more players. A certainty it certainly isn't. The teams around us have plenty of games in hand, they’re playing each other this week, we can’t seem to beat the teams around us. We keep blowing chances to catch up and we are not winning our ‘must win’ games. Of course it isn’t over. But if you can’t win that game against Watford from that position. Then when are you going to start? The team looks absolutely finished. Still can’t defend, don’t create much at the other end and so we’re not scoring many, either. No bollocks in the squad, we have had no real lift from Howe and 1 win in 22 in all comps or whatever it is. Absolutely pathetic. I’m nowhere near as confident of getting top quality players in this window, as some. Seems like we are fixated on the same 2-3 players and we’re banging our head against a brick wall with all of them. Even if we somehow got 4 starters in. That might not even be enough, such is the perilous position we find ourselves in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: The teams around us have plenty of games in hand, they’re playing each other this week, we can’t seem to beat the teams around us. We keep blowing chances to catch up and we are not winning our ‘must win’ games. Of course it isn’t over. But if you can’t win that game against Watford from that position. Then when are you going to start? The team looks absolutely finished. Still can’t defend, don’t create much at the other end and so we’re not scoring many, either. No bollocks in the squad, we have had no real lift from Howe and 1 win in 22 in all comps or whatever it is. Absolutely pathetic. I’m nowhere near as confident of getting top quality players in this window, as some. Seems like we are fixated on the same 2-3 players and we’re banging our head against a brick wall with all of them. Even if we somehow got 4 starters in. That might not even be enough, such is the perilous position we find ourselves in. 3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Of course it isn’t over. But if you can’t win that game against Watford from that position. Then when are you going to start? That is something i totally agree with, and it does look grim. But with a couple more buys in the right areas, and only a couple of points adrift, well there's a chance we can stay up imo. I wouldn't say I'm optimistic, just not defeated would be the better phrase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) There's a good point there, if you don't get off the pitch right, you'll never get on the pitch right. Edited January 16, 2022 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, POOT 2.0 said: The training ground rebuild would be the biggest and most important change that could be made to the club. It would be a legacy. Aye, let’s hope they go full balls out and do one like city. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The article says the new build training ground will rival any in league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 A completely rebuilt training facility is probably “three or four years away” but it will rival any in the division. The likelihood is that this will involve relocation, an area of expertise for Reuben, whose family are long-term property investors on Tyneside. “We’ve done a lot of work on this already,” one figure says. “We’ve got a good steer on what’s possible. It’s going to be exciting.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: The article says the new build training ground will rival any in league Yeah, I saw that. Sounds like PR speak to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The Athletic absolutely love 5000 word articles that can be summed up in a fraction of that like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Some good sound bites in that article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Looking forward to seeing more details. I always thought the spending which doesn’t affect FFP would demonstrate the extent of the ambition the owners have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) And the point is that this is still a limited operation. With no Charnley, no CEO and no sporting director, Staveley and Ghodoussi have taken on a crushing degree of responsibility. Aided by Reuben, who is being guided by Howe, chief scout Steve Nickson and Nick Hammond, acting in a temporary advisory capacity, they are doing deals themselves, as well as pretty much everything else. ^^ Hammond mentioned again. So what gives with Hardy? Edited January 16, 2022 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: That is a brilliant article. Worth a good read of it for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 hours ago, POOT 2.0 said: Shame the team doesn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Reading most of the comments on here and social media, I’m embarrassed. People slating the owners and Howe, FFS. I wouldn’t blame them for walking away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 That’s a sound way to own a business after a few months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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