GideonShandy Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 On 18/09/2022 at 12:30, STM said: Thank God for Amanda Staveley. Hate to imagine the state we'd be in if she hadn't come along. Total legend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: See the ‘big 6’ are up to shenanigans again. Kieran Maguires tweet is interesting. I don't get the U21s bit. If clubs don't want to play in it, play their kids anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: See the ‘big 6’ are up to shenanigans again. Kieran Maguires tweet is interesting. One thing I'd go along with is scrapping the league cup. It's been dead for a long long time. I'd actually be a bit gutted if our first trophy was that because it's not too far off our intertoto win for me. To balance it out, I'd give a Champion's League spot to the FA Cup winner... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, 80 said: One thing I'd go along with is scrapping the league cup. It's been dead for a long long time. I'd actually be a bit gutted if our first trophy was that because it's not too far off our intertoto win for me Find that such a depressing take. It's a totally legitimate competition imo and I would hate for us/the majority to have the slim chance of securing silverware made even slimmer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Keep the league cup but exclude clubs in the champions league and give the winners the 4th CL space. Spice it up a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 The league cup is absolutely fine as it is, you just have to look at the last 10 years worth of winners to see that it's taken seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, FloydianMag said: See the ‘big 6’ are up to shenanigans again. Kieran Maguires tweet is interesting. It's just silly to have two domestic cups. League cup should be retired. All teams should enter the first round of the FA cup with no qualification rounds. More money for winning the early rounds, with a smaller price pool for winning, but rather compete for a CL spot. No replays. Go to extra time then penalty shootout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Conjo said: It's just silly to have two domestic cups. League cup should be retired. All teams should enter the first round of the FA cup with no qualification rounds. More money for winning the early rounds, with a smaller price pool for winning, but rather compete for a CL spot. No replays. Go to extra time then penalty shootout. No Qualification rounds? The FA Cup just becomes the League Cup in that case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, KDT said: No Qualification rounds? The FA Cup just becomes the League Cup in that case. Not if all teams enter from the first round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Aye, here we go. Trying to pull up the drawbridge on other clubs as usual… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Or how about clubs stop doing ridiculous overseas tours pre season. Limit each club to 4 pre season games over a two week block and extend the season by 2 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Conjo said: Not if all teams enter from the first round. So are you saying that it would be limited to only clubs playing as low as League 2 or are you going all the way down the football pyramid to Northern League level or whatever the equivalents are that enter at the first qualifying round? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Conjo said: Not if all teams enter from the first round. More than 700 teams compete in the FA Cup. You'd need about ten rounds! Mind you West Didsbury & Chorlton (a) sounds canny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, KDT said: So are you saying that it would be limited to only clubs playing as low as League 2 or are you going all the way down the football pyramid to Northern League level or whatever the equivalents are that enter at the first qualifying round? Without having looked into how many games it would end up being, then yes ideally every team from PL to the lowest league level enters the same round. If that ends up being an unreasonable amount of games over a season then I may have to retract my statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) That's 224 732 clubs in the first round Edited September 20, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 The first round draw would be on longer than the Queen's funeral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: More than 700 teams compete in the FA Cup. You'd need about ten rounds! Mind you West Didsbury & Chorlton (a) sounds canny. If a PL team wins both League & FA cup they'll play either 11 or 12 games depending on which round of the League Cup they enter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, 80 said: One thing I'd go along with is scrapping the league cup. It's been dead for a long long time. I'd actually be a bit gutted if our first trophy was that because it's not too far off our intertoto win for me. To balance it out, I'd give a Champion's League spot to the FA Cup winner... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, 80 said: One thing I'd go along with is scrapping the league cup. It's been dead for a long long time. I'd actually be a bit gutted if our first trophy was that because it's not too far off our intertoto win for me. To balance it out, I'd give a Champion's League spot to the FA Cup winner... Nah, not having that at all. I’d go crackers if we win the LC - and no chance would I want to reduce the number of competitions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 At some point the other clubs need to grow some bollocks and mount a legal challenge. And I include our own in that - fuck playing their stupid FFP games. The whole thing has become a racket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Aye, there will come a time when one or more top flight clubs take the PL to court. The Governing body have essentially created a vague set of rules that limits a private entity from spending based on its income, whilst simultaneously limiting how it can increase that income. I don't see how it complies with anti-competition law. Edited September 20, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 The alternative would be to do as we please and see if the PL have the bollocks to pull us up on it, knowing the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Nah, not having that at all. I’d go crackers if we win the LC - and no chance would I want to reduce the number of competitions I'd be happy if we won it but I'd also get rid of it. Never really saw the point if it in the first place, even less so now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, Conjo said: Without having looked into how many games it would end up being, then yes ideally every team from PL to the lowest league level enters the same round. If that ends up being an unreasonable amount of games over a season then I may have to retract my statement Having all in at once may be a bit far. Definitely have all league clubs and National league join in the same round though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 FFP doesn't stand up to any scrutiny as far as fair competition and the CAS goes. We've seen that already with penalties that were handed out to PSG & Man City that were later rescinded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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