et tu brute Posted Monday at 22:31 Share Posted Monday at 22:31 52 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Hard to see how that would or could’ve been blocked - if you don’t allow competitive market tenders what can you allow? Or bids from the same nation as the owners - can’t see that being popular. PIF haven’t even used their position within KSA to ‘encourage’ these kind of deals. Everyone seems to be waiting for the dominos to fall and then they spring into action. To date, that hasn’t occurred. Custer's back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Monday at 23:04 Share Posted Monday at 23:04 32 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Custer's back Swinging his Big Horn around as usual … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted Tuesday at 06:48 Share Posted Tuesday at 06:48 Didn’t go to this one but usually every PIF company has a booth at these things tbf. Non-story, really. The main thing I’m getting (not from any insider knowledge or anything, god knows I’ve got none of that) is that, where possible, they don’t want to cannibalize profits from other PIF companies/ investments to prop this one up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Tuesday at 07:19 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:19 31 minutes ago, McCormick said: Didn’t go to this one but usually every PIF company has a booth at these things tbf. Non-story, really. The main thing I’m getting (not from any insider knowledge or anything, god knows I’ve got none of that) is that, where possible, they don’t want to cannibalize profits from other PIF companies/ investments to prop this one up. Hope they like midtable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted Tuesday at 23:23 Share Posted Tuesday at 23:23 Honestly not sure what the fact I've never felt "disgust" towards our owners, even with Saudi Arabia's beyond horrible human rights record, until I saw this image Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 23:53 Share Posted Tuesday at 23:53 28 minutes ago, Kaizero said: Honestly not sure what the fact I've never felt "disgust" towards our owners, even with Saudi Arabia's beyond horrible human rights record, until I saw this image It’s hard not to feel disgust for the KSA govt and the House of Saud tbf. PIF funded Musk’s Twitter buyout, one of the key vehicle’s undermining US democracy - and I don’t doubt that they knew what they were doing. They’re a delightful bunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Tuesday at 23:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 23:55 (edited) Shows how Western-focused we are like, although it's understandable because of what we are and aren't regularly exposed to. Put him alongside MBS and on paper it should stir at least the same reaction towards them and imo much more. Edited Tuesday at 23:56 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Wednesday at 10:13 Share Posted Wednesday at 10:13 You can bone-saw journalists and leave them in bags, but put have a photo with Trump and N-O says enough is enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted Wednesday at 10:27 Share Posted Wednesday at 10:27 (edited) 13 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: You can bone-saw journalists and leave them in bags, but put have a photo with Trump and N-O says enough is enough The MAGA hat sent everyone over the edge. Edited Wednesday at 10:27 by SAK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago (edited) PIF have bought an estimated 10% stake in DAZN for about $1bn. Edited 18 hours ago by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Stifler said: PIF have bought an estimated 10% stake in DAZN for about $1bn. No new stadium then, worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago On 19/02/2025 at 10:13, AyeDubbleYoo said: You can bone-saw journalists and leave them in bags, but put have a photo with Trump and N-O says enough is enough Think Trump and his forces undertake extra-judicial murder on a daily basis, it’s just called a targeted drone strike or Special Ops mission. Heck our own SAS are currently under investigation for the brutal murder of civilians. How many journalists have Israel vaporised in the last 18 months? There’s not much I agree with Peter Hitchens on, but focussing on one specific type of murder whilst being oblivious or ambivalent to others is daft. (Was an interview at the time of the Syria gas attacks and the point he made was if you set that as your redline, you’ve effectively given every dictator free rein to murder their people as long as they stick to conventional weapons) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Oh I completely agree, just found it funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago (edited) Bit late to the party like it was reported in late December they were. The DAZN deal I mean. Edited 18 hours ago by Charlies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Think Trump and his forces undertake extra-judicial murder on a daily basis, it’s just called a targeted drone strike or Special Ops mission. Heck our own SAS are currently under investigation for the brutal murder of civilians. How many journalists have Israel vaporised in the last 18 months? There’s not much I agree with Peter Hitchens on, but focussing on one specific type of murder whilst being oblivious or ambivalent to others is daft. (Was an interview at the time of the Syria gas attacks and the point he made was if you set that as your redline, you’ve effectively given every dictator free rein to murder their people as long as they stick to conventional weapons) It is easy to write this in a country where you can publicly criticise your government - a pretty fundamental difference between KSA and the US or UK. And if they did arrest you, you do have the Rule of Law - unlike KSA. And so on, and so forth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It is easy to write this in a country where you can publicly criticise your government - a pretty fundamental difference between KSA and the US or UK. And if they did arrest you, you do have the Rule of Law - unlike KSA. And so on, and so forth. It's THEIR law. So keep within their laws in their country then everything is fine. However, the USA who's president is an absolute psychopath will execute people on a massive scale within their own country. The USA are a danger to the rest of the world NOT Saudi Arabia. I'm a Geordie by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 8 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It is easy to write this in a country where you can publicly criticise your government - a pretty fundamental difference between KSA and the US or UK. And if they did arrest you, you do have the Rule of Law - unlike KSA. And so on, and so forth. Very true, I guess you’ve not seen what’s happening to any public official who has criticised Musk recently then. I guess the fact that the direction of travel in Saudi Arabia is towards being more open and progressive even if not at the speed lots would like, as opposed to the apparent "Leaders of the Free World" TM sleepwalking into an Authoritarian nightmare is why it shocks and annoys more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Just now, Rod said: It's THEIR law. So keep within their laws in their country then everything is fine. However, the USA who's president is an absolute psychopath will execute people on a massive scale within their own country. The USA are a danger to the rest of the world NOT Saudi Arabia. I'm a Geordie by the way. They literally don't have laws, Rod. There is no Rule of Law in KSA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Just now, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Very true, I guess you’ve not seen what’s happening to any public official who has criticised Musk recently then. I guess the fact that the direction of travel in Saudi Arabia is towards being more open and progressive even if not at the speed lots would like, as opposed to the apparent "Leaders of the Free World" TM sleepwalking into an Authoritarian nightmare is why it shocks and annoys more I'm aware of what Trump and Musk are up to, and they are retrograde steps - but there is still a difference between that and a dictatorship which can execute and prosecute on a whim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: They literally don't have laws, Rod. There is no Rule of Law in KSA. And your thoughts on Trump? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, Rod said: And your thoughts on Trump? Massive cunt with authoritarian / anti-democratic tendencies, possible outright fascist. An outright danger to the world generally, and young women in particular. Would be great comedy figure if he had no power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: I'm aware of what Trump and Musk are up to, and they are retrograde steps - but there is still a difference between that and a dictatorship which can execute and prosecute on a whim. What are you talking about? They prosecute and execute murderers, rapists and other low life's. In the UK they get an equivalent of an Airbnb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Very true, I guess you’ve not seen what’s happening to any public official who has criticised Musk recently then. I guess the fact that the direction of travel in Saudi Arabia is towards being more open and progressive even if not at the speed lots would like, as opposed to the apparent "Leaders of the Free World" TM sleepwalking into an Authoritarian nightmare is why it shocks and annoys more knowing people who live and work in saudi - not just expats - the country has come on leaps and bounds even in the last couple of years. granted they started from a low base. but things like girls/women's sport would have been unheard off a few years ago. no chance there'll be alcohol at the world cup though, even in hotels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Takes a brave man to go toe-to-toe with Rod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Rod said: What are you talking about? They prosecute and execute murderers, rapists and other low life's. In the UK they get an equivalent of an Airbnb. They can also execute you for blasphemy, homosexuality and witchcraft. They can execute on a whim because there is no written law code - it is up to individual judges to make judgements and sentences in their own interpretation of Sharia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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