PIF and RB Sports & Media

[Groundhog63]

Watched Super Greed (The Fight for Football) last night. Brilliant stuff but doesn't half boil one's piss. Utter cunts running clubs beyond their means with an insatiable appetite for more and more cash.

Well noticed Johnson flip-flopped as per and Masters, the sly cunt.

[Darth Crooks]

Did Sky mention their role in it?

[Kanj]

The pull out news hit me so hard. Was genuinely depressed. 

[Hovagod]

1 hour ago, Kanji said:

The pull out news hit me so hard. Was genuinely depressed. 

I was in London- was it the hottest day of the year? As a show of how disconnected I was, I saw the news on the BBC website. As well as the horrible sting of disappointment there was also, as the day went on, something like relief that I could take that news like a bullet before moving on with the rest of the day spent with my mam and brother. I was out. 

[1964]

I remember the mackems thought it was hilarious,  no mention of a close shave with a despotic regime oddly enough.  I wonder when they all found their moral compass....

[Robster]

I don't know if I've just blocked it out because it eventually came good but I'm struggling to remember with any detail, that moment when it all fell apart.

[Jackie Broon]

I was seeing my parents for the first time since Christmas 2019, staying in a cottage in Cumbria, we had been out for a walk and then checked my phone and saw the gutting news. Ended up having a row with my Mum in the evening and then coming down with a stomach bug and throwing up all night. What a shit day all round.

[NWMag]

I was working from home and was mid call when the sky sports notification popped up, felt devastated and completely switched off from what I was doing. 
 

Thankfully it became clear within the following 24-48 hours that all was not dead!

[bowlingcrofty]

Remember the mackems #cans tweet? How’s that worked out for ‘The Lads’?

 

 

[NEEJ]

Horrendously small-time. 

[wormy]

Had to search him up to see who he is/how he's doing.

 

A forward who managed just 5 in 45 for them and has nearly bested that in just 12 appearances since heading to Portsmouth.  Sounds about right. 

[The Prophet]

I wonder if they'll announce any new sponsorship deals at the end of the season.

[SUPERTOON]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I wonder if they'll announce any new sponsorship deals at the end of the season.

I have a feeling we will see quite few announcements at the end of the season, I think everything to this point has been rightfully about staying up.

[Guest neesy111]

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I wonder if they'll announce any new sponsorship deals at the end of the season.

 

Think there's no doubt about that.

[Guest reefatoon]

24 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I wonder if they'll announce any new sponsorship deals at the end of the season.

I think you will see movement on both this and Ashworth (pay his release fee early) when we guarantee safety.

 

 

Edited April 16, 2022 by reefatoon

[RodneyCisse]

24 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I wonder if they'll announce any new sponsorship deals at the end of the season.

As late as possible so they can’t be challenged I’d imagine.

[Keegans Export]

I think we all know anything we try will be challenged. 

 

I imagine they're waiting because you can justify a more substantial sponsorship package for a Premier League club next season than a team that will probably be a Premier League club next season. 

[Stifler]

33 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said:

As late as possible so they can’t be challenged I’d imagine.

Can’t do it. Everything now has to go to the Premier League before any announcements. Apparently we were good to go for new deals in December, so there is a huge chance that the Premier League have left it sit on the desk for the last 4 months or rejected those deals and behind the scenes the club is appealing that.

 

There is no chance FUN 88 will be staying after the end of their contract with us, which is supposed to end at the end of this season.

[Darth Crooks]

I’ll not be sad to see the back of a Chinese betting company tbh. I know they are popular but I also found their social media output a bit crass. Naive I know - just didn’t like the way they confected stuff like the Sunderland rivalry or support for Rafa and silence the rest of the time.

[The Prophet]

5 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Can’t do it. Everything now has to go to the Premier League before any announcements. Apparently we were good to go for new deals in December, so there is a huge chance that the Premier League have left it sit on the desk for the last 4 months or rejected those deals and behind the scenes the club is appealing that.

 

There is no chance FUN 88 will be staying after the end of their contract with us, which is supposed to end at the end of this season.

 

"A huge chance" is an incredibly paranoid take like.

[madras]

There's also the chance that if we were to go and get a marquee signing early on then it raises our profile which also raises the price for sponsorship deals etc even under fair value rules.

[Whitley mag]

It only goes to the PL if it’s a related party though, if it’s an outside sponsor with no links to PIF they can pay what they like ?

 

I have a feeling companies outside of Saudi Arabia who are keen to deal, or have dealings currently with PIF will be the main sponsor. Think we’ll be very clever when it comes to this and be one step ahead of the PL.

 

 

[Keegans Export]

51 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

It only goes to the PL if it’s a related party though, if it’s an outside sponsor with no links to PIF they can pay what they like ?

 

I have a feeling companies outside of Saudi Arabia who are keen to deal, or have dealings currently with PIF will be the main sponsor. Think we’ll be very clever when it comes to this and be one step ahead of the PL.

 

 

As I understand it you're right (first paragraph)

 

I think there could be questions asked if we sign a huge sponsorship deal with (for example) IBM then PIF invest £200m in IBM a month later.

 

I think the more risk-free strategy is to argue the exact "fair market value" part. Our deal with Fun88 is about average for a non-elite PL club (£4-7m) but could we argue that our potential spending power justifies a sponsorship closer to the £40m clubs like Arsenal and Spurs are getting? Let's say we have Saudi Aramco sign up for 2 seasons, £30m per season - there's £20‐25m extra per season straight away.

 

After the second season, maybe the going rate increases & hopefully we're a more attractive prospect and they bump that £30m per season up to whatever Liverpool/Man Utd/Chelsea are getting? Sleve sponsorship is the same, most clubs around the £1m/season, top clubs more like £10m.

[madras]

8 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

As I understand it you're right (first paragraph)

 

I think there could be questions asked if we sign a huge sponsorship deal with (for example) IBM then PIF invest £200m in IBM a month later.

 

I think the more risk-free strategy is to argue the exact "fair market value" part. Our deal with Fun88 is about average for a non-elite PL club (£4-7m) but could we argue that our potential spending power justifies a sponsorship closer to the £40m clubs like Arsenal and Spurs are getting? Let's say we have Saudi Aramco sign up for 2 seasons, £30m per season - there's £20‐25m extra per season straight away.

 

After the second season, maybe the going rate increases & hopefully we're a more attractive prospect and they bump that £30m per season up to whatever Liverpool/Man Utd/Chelsea are getting? Sleve sponsorship is the same, most clubs around the £1m/season, top clubs more like £10m.

Then look at "partnerships" etc as well. Liverpool for example https://www.liverpoolfc.com/corporate/partners

 

 

Edited April 16, 2022 by madras

[Keegans Export]

4 minutes ago, madras said:

Then look at "partnerships" etc as well. Liverpool for example https://www.liverpoolfc.com/corporate/partners

 

 

 

Exactly, there is huge potential for us to increase our spending power without trying to outsmart the PL or skirt around their rules.