r0cafella Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, McCormick said: He stayed silent while I was rattling on about Emaar and my inane FFP ramblings ffs . Unbelievable. He respects his none disclosure agreement and his job Is he the founder or an appointee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 It would be crazy to use a company owned by PIF imo. Just asking for trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 If we are getting a PIF sponsor, would love it to be Lucid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, McCormick said: He stayed silent while I was rattling on about Emaar and my inane FFP ramblings ffs . Unbelievable. Guess you know he can be trusted with any secrets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, Chicken Dancer said: It would be crazy to use a company owned by PIF imo. Just asking for trouble. It’s not against the rules, it’s about fair value which is judged independently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, Chicken Dancer said: It would be crazy to use a company owned by PIF imo. Just asking for trouble. Not if its viewed as a fair price. We are a Champs league club owned by a Saudi concern so there is naturally lots if interest in Saidi Arabia and that would play massively for any advertiser, linked or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Coincidence that this comes out as soon as we have secured CL? Perhaps it's more money than the 25m/season that was mentioned a while back. Here's hoping that the deal agreed back then had some clauses regarding change of of the deal if we ereach CL. I have no clue about these things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Chicken Dancer said: It would be crazy to use a company owned by PIF imo. Just asking for trouble. I think it could be quite a smart move actually providing we aren't claiming it to be hundreds of millions If it was the £25m that was reported how on earth can the PL say that isn't fair? We are now a Champions League club and it's still considerably less than the other CL clubs and even clubs that aren't in it (Spurs, Chelsea) If the PL look to push it then perhaps we are confident that it can be legally challenged with ease Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, Ikon said: Coincidence that this comes out as soon as we have secured CL? Perhaps it's more money than the 25m/season that was mentioned a while back. Here's hoping that the deal agreed back then had some clauses regarding change of of the deal if we ereach CL. I have no clue about these things Yes, after we qualified for UCL 4 different PIF companies started fighting for our sponsorship. It's only natural that it increased to 40m/season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Can you have elements of the shirt sponsor that doesn’t relate to the PL? ie £25m for PL sponsorship and another £50m for CL sponsorship? Not really the PLs place to say what’s fair for a competition that’s out of their jurisdiction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Fair enough, I just assumed it was against the rules these days. Ahh well crack on then, £35m a season to match Spurs' seems fair, giving we're in the elite competition and they aren't! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Now that mix of greens on their website would make a lovely coloured away kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 There would be a certain satisfaction in ending up with a shirt sponsor that literally none of the Twitter "ITKs" have even mentioned in passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, Keegans Export said: There would be a certain satisfaction in ending up with a shirt sponsor that literally none of the Twitter "ITKs" have even mentioned in passing. Baldwards knows. Just keeping schtum and saving it for his big ITK grand reveal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I could be completely wrong about this, but I'm not sure the PL could stop a sponsorship at any level even with a related party. But what they can do is limit the amount that is then counted from a FFP point of view. If that's right, go as high as possible, and then if the PL set the FFP qualifying amount from that deal as too low, tangle them up in legal arguments about it for years. Anything we get that's over and above a fair FFP amount, we could presumably just use on non FFP spend - like the stadium etc. Which stops the owners needing to put in more capital as cash for that kind of investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Abacus said: I could be completely wrong about this, but I'm not sure the PL could stop a sponsorship at any level even with a related party. But what they can do is limit the amount that is then counted from a FFP point of view. If that's right, go as high as possible, and then if the PL set the FFP qualifying amount from that deal as too low, tangle them up in legal arguments about it for years. Anything we get that's over and above a fair FFP amount, we could presumably just use on non FFP spend - like the stadium etc. Which stops the owners needing to put in more capital as cash for that kind of investment. That's exactly right, no doubt they'll try and count as low a figure as possible whereas we'll push for as high as possible, something will no doubt have to give Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Mental that they can stop a sponsorship deal. Hopefully if it happens to use we get another CAT case going against the bastards. Crease that it was brought in not long after our take over too, when many clubs had taken the piss with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bada Bing Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I think it will be similar to a cap and collar arrangement. If you exceed the cap that the PL deems fair value, the excess amount would be treated as owner equity, not reportable income. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 We can at least match what spurs get now surely ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We can at least match what spurs get now surely ? Not quite there yet Our numbers and their numbers: Edited May 24, 2023 by kocunar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 show me the moneyyyyy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Not the worst logo in the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, kocunar said: If we are getting a PIF sponsor, would love it to be Lucid. Same. Also them to open their future European plant here would be amazing. Edited May 24, 2023 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Shit logo. Not going to lie - would prefer something more aesthetic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Conjo said: Shit logo. Not going to lie - would prefer something more aesthetic Mickey Mouse ears…? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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