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Rod

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6 hours ago, Heron said:

For me, there a lot of football fans out there who pretend to give a shit about what goes on in Saudi Arabia simply because of PIFs acquisition of Newcastle United as opposed to their humanitarian concerns and that is more the point I (personally) was getting at with regards to this particular article.

 

Other than saying some WhatsApp messages suggest MbS has been involved then the article isn't really saying anything at all - and I don't think anyone suspected he 100% wasn't involved anyways.

 

Hence why I think it's simply there to question our ownership/remove them as our owners as opposed to Saudi's morality.

 

That's done so because the likelihood is that the journalist believes a) These types of ownership are ruining football (which is correct) and b) it's likely affecting his/her teams capability to be successful.

 

However, in the UK I don't see many teams questioning the morality of other clubs owners - albeit I understand they're not in the same ball park. Folk are bothered about us because of our potential financial magnitude- which we've actually been stopped from accessing via a cartel of clubs and other lickspittles.

 

So I find it all very disingenuous.

 

Furthermore, to @TheBrownBottles point - in essence, almost each and every one of us are absolutely hypocrites. Not just on this forum but as a society. It's absolutely shocking that kids work in sweatshops making less than a quid for a football top but we then give the big wigs £80. It's absolutely shocking that people aren't brought to justice because they're rich and powerful and it's absolutely shocking what is going on in the PL. Nurses on next to nowt and footballers multi-millionaires. We all know these things but how many of us actually do anything at all about it.

 

The excuse from every man and his dog (myself included) is "well what can I do about it?". No one will ever do owt about it if they don't try - but most don't because it doesn't directly impact them. Hell, even when we had Mike Ashley and it did - most did nowt then - but the media weren't arsed cause we weren't a threat to their clubs...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brilliant post!

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PauloGeordio

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4 minutes ago, mattypnufc said:

Same or similar story tends to emerge every other month.  Boring. 

The Saudis are here for as long as they choose to be (or unless global politics does a complete 180!) [emoji38]

 

 

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https://apple.news/AYqiMA4kWRnysw33A6Xeciw
 

Sorry to say but Miguel Delaney is back at it. His hate for us is hilarious when you also consider that such awful “state ownership” has meant we’re being ran like a relatively normal football club. 
 

The kicker being this snippet of utter nonsense in the final paragraph:

 

“Newcastle haven’t created as many headlines as any of that. There is even the feeling within the game that the Saudi state is ultimately eyeing a bigger club. Rumours abound about both Liverpool and Chelsea. Barcelona’s financial troubles are even seen as potentially bringing an end to the club’s full member ownership and forcing the sale of a partial stake.”

 

 

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Stifler

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So it took them a year and a half with a legal challenge to buy us, and they are going to sell us to buy another Premier League team? Aye right, because they are well up for that.

 

The added bit about Barcelona as well, anyone who knows anything about football knows that you can’t buy Barcelona.

Who next? The Green Bay Packers?

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Just having a browse through the Newcastle United category on Apple News and there 10 or so articles from the last day about our ownership. 
 

Then Lee Ryder is banging on about Brighton game still

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TRon

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34 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Someone should tell these clubs that despite what they think, they are not the arbiters or who gets to buy what. 

 

I don't know who's going to tell them because it won't be the PL authorities.

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Likelylad

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2 hours ago, Jack27 said:

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That is madness. So they brought in suspect rules to stop us pushing on. Which led to City taking the prem to court and that’s somehow that’s our fault? It would be enraging if it wasn’t so farcical. 

 

 

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Stifler

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4 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Someone should tell these clubs that despite what they think, they are not the arbiters or who gets to buy what. 

What’s more amazing is that he titles the article, and starts it off by suggesting that the Premier League should investigate our ownership because of a lack of separation.

He then ends the article suggesting they could sell us to buy another Premier League club.

It’s either a fucking issue, or it’s fucking not.

 

The thing is though, I guess this article isn’t written for me or other NUFC fans. We know the details, we know they are about to announce building a new stadium for somewhere between £1bn-£4bn, we know they have just brought in a director who’s background is in land acquisition for this, we know that they are in the process of replacing Eales due to his illness, etc.

This is written for your Man Utd, Arsenal, and Liverpool fans who need something to feel good about. The article might as well be titled ‘Want to feel good about the Newcastle takeover, here’s some straws for you to clutch’.

 

If Migual Delaney is an award winning reporter, then he must be sweating under the pressure that the guys at the Lad Bible are coming to take his awards off him.

 

 

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TRon

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19 minutes ago, Likelylad said:

That is madness. So they brought in suspect rules to stop us pushing on. Which led to City taking the prem to court and that’s somehow that’s our fault? It would be enraging if it wasn’t so farcical. 

 

 

 

 

 

You can understand why the PL officials would be keen to go down that route though. They've come out of this as prize pillocks for the most part, this way they could find a new pantomime villain to throw under the bus.

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Likelylad

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1 hour ago, TRon said:

 

 

You can understand why the PL officials would be keen to go down that route though. They've come out of this as prize pillocks for the most part, this way they could find a new pantomime villain to throw under the bus.

The timing is interesting mind. Are we being used as a distraction regards to APT stuff etc or is it just coincidental? 

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Jonas

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5 hours ago, Jack27 said:

https://apple.news/AYqiMA4kWRnysw33A6Xeciw
 

Sorry to say but Miguel Delaney is back at it. His hate for us is hilarious when you also consider that such awful “state ownership” has meant we’re being ran like a relatively normal football club. 
 

The kicker being this snippet of utter nonsense in the final paragraph:

 

“Newcastle haven’t created as many headlines as any of that. There is even the feeling within the game that the Saudi state is ultimately eyeing a bigger club. Rumours abound about both Liverpool and Chelsea. Barcelona’s financial troubles are even seen as potentially bringing an end to the club’s full member ownership and forcing the sale of a partial stake.”

 

 

 

Ollie Holt as well.

Disingeuously coordinated much?

You'd have to imagine that PSR doesn't exist for the premiss to even get off the ground. Unfortunately it does and its quite pervasive, though not as much as the thing he has for us.

 

 

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KetsbaiaIsBald

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The coordination and timing do seem odd.  Maybe the premier league are trying to keep us in line in the meetings.

 

But its hard to argue about anything written:

 

- new training ground project is silent

- new ground announcement has been delayed multiple times (latest with the good news that we're starting phase 2!)

- no players of note signed in since Tonali over a year ago

- no decent sponsorships announced

- Inter Milan getting more push in Saudi than us (https://www.insideworldfootball.com/2024/10/17/inter-milan-acquire-license-market-club-saudi-arabia/)

 

I want to believe that it's all long term project, be patient etc etc but from the outside nothing much seems to be happening.   

 

Edit Also:

- Shirt sponsor was allegedly  below what APR rules would have allowed

- Saudi teams doing way more for other teams than ours with signings

 

 

 

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Jackie Broon

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9 hours ago, Stifler said:

So it took them a year and a half with a legal challenge to buy us, and they are going to sell us to buy another Premier League team? Aye right, because they are well up for that.

 

The added bit about Barcelona as well, anyone who knows anything about football knows that you can’t buy Barcelona.

Who next? The Green Bay Packers?

 

They tried and failed to buy Liverpool before moving on to us because Staveley persuaded them it was a good investment to buy us and build us into a top club.

 

It's naive to think that, with it looking a much more difficult and long term task than they originally envisaged (or possibly impossible) to turn us into a top club, there is no chance they could recalculate if a top 6 club were to be avalible.

 

To be realistic, we haven't been able to push-on on or off the pitch in the way they probably expected and it doesn't seem we've really caught on in Saudi the way they probably hoped.

 

I'm not saying that they're going to move on but it's naive to think that it's not a possibility.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

They tried and failed to buy Liverpool before moving on to us because Staveley persuaded them it was a good investment to buy us and build us into a top club.

 

It's naive to think that, with it looking a much more difficult and long term task than they originally envisaged (or possibly impossible) to turn us into a top club, that there is no chance they could recalculate if a top 6 club were to be avalible.

 

To be realistic, we haven't been able to push-on on or off the pitch in the way they probably expected and it doesn't seem we've really caught on in Saudi they way they probably hoped.

 

I'm not saying that they're going to move on but it's naive to think that it's not a possibility.

 

 

 

 

 

We haven't caught on in Saudi because we are blocked from winning anything via PSR and FFP. Winning teams gain worldwide following, that is how Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal gained traction, and precisely why they have fought so hard to stop us buying players.  It would be ironic if they were rewarded for this by getting themselves bought by the Saudis which would - let's face it - suit them and the PL authorities who would have one less problem to deal with.

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SAK

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Not sure why everyone’s getting worked up by these reports. At the outset it was stated this wasn’t a Man City type takeover but a long term investment to create a sustainable club. They never planned to plough City/PSG money into us and sign the Mbappes and Haalands. They’re looking to exploit scouting and data to find talent and develop it and I don’t think PSR/FFP changes have brought that about but was always the plan. I think their vision is Dortmund but with more money.

 

 

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