AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) I really want to believe that all the critics actually care about human rights in Saudi Arabia, but I think most of them are just happy to have something to use against Newcastle fans. I’m completely for making arguments against the things the Saudi regime do. I just don’t think it has a place in the realm of football fan rivalry. I don’t think needling other football fans is very comparable to satirical comedy. Edited August 17, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Cute, Pep, but we're all set with wor Eddie cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Aimed at the “teeth grinder” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 On 17/08/2023 at 11:51, AyeDubbleYoo said: I really want to believe that all the critics actually care about human rights in Saudi Arabia, but I think most of them are just happy to have something to use against Newcastle fans. I’m completely for making arguments against the things the Saudi regime do. I just don’t think it has a place in the realm of football fan rivalry. I don’t think needling other football fans is very comparable to satirical comedy. I would agree and cynically I also think many people that do genuinely care about human rights aren’t really bothered about sportswashing, but use it to make their concerns about human rights seem relevant and topical. I’m not sure what benefit it really has to fighting human rights abuses by ensuring we have a negative opinion on certain countries, but maybe that’s me not understanding the issues enough. Where I do feel rival fans can comment here with more legitimate frustrations is the ‘separation’ stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Was only this week that privately educated Guardianista Man United fan John Brewin had to delete his racist tweet accusing all Saudis of being Jihadis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 The crown Prince appears to have been invited to this country. What's the betting he gets to take in a game at SJP? The shitshow will get worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Ash2579 said: Man watches game Can’t wait for the fume! He’ll fucking love it. Hope St James is rocking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Sigh, id find mbs at a match pretty horrible tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tiresias said: Sigh, id find mbs at a match pretty horrible tbh. You can employ a certain level of cognitive dissonance until you see him at SJP that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 41 minutes ago, Tiresias said: Sigh, id find mbs at a match pretty horrible tbh. It'd be grim as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Would also drive a camel & cart through the whole "we're completely separate guv" argument too. It won't happen thankfully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 He got an invite to the queens funeral but a ticket for the west stand is just a step too far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, RS said: He got an invite to the queens funeral but a ticket for the west stand is just a step too far Fuck the monarchy and fuck MBS. Is that clearer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 why not go full hog if queens funeral is a measure of great bloke and invite the grand prince of noncing prince andrew to st james park while we're at it then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 The thick cunts in our supports standing to acclaim and applaud a literal murderer might be the time I have to give up, like. I would hope wor flags would put everything down for the day too. I won’t be at the match regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, RS said: He got an invite to the queens funeral but a ticket for the west stand is just a step too far Probably is if you couldn't give the first shit about the queen but support Newcastle like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, GEFAFWISP said: Fuck the monarchy and fuck MBS. Is that clearer? Very clear but the point I’m making is nobody gave a fuck about that funeral invite but if he happens to rock up at SJP it would be a media frenzy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hovagod said: The thick cunts in our supports standing to acclaim and applaud a literal murderer might be the time I have to give up, like. I would hope wor flags would put everything down for the day too. I won’t be at the match regardless. Im not really up to date with current affairs / legal accuracies but i'm not 100% sure that its proven he's a murderer, however i'm happy to proven wrong if so ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 How is anyone going to prove that with the power and money he has? If you don’t believe he’s a murderer and presiding over a horrific regime then there’s absolutely no discussion to be had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, RS said: Very clear but the point I’m making is nobody gave a fuck about that funeral invite but if he happens to rock up at SJP it would be a media frenzy. People say this all the time when it's not Newcastle related, but people did care, it just wasn't as visible to us in our Newcastle bubble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, gbandit said: How is anyone going to prove that with the power and money he has? If you don’t believe he’s a murderer and presiding over a horrific regime then there’s absolutely no discussion to be had I’m not really doubting anyone just feel a little unsure as to how anyone can outright claim anyone is a murderer without proof, there have been plenty of despots throughout history have been proved guilty of murder at least as wealthy, I believe what I believe & regardless what you or anyone else tells me to believe it wont ever change my thoughts however I respect your right to think that way, I dont. Edited August 19, 2023 by RUHRLYASLEEVESUP . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: People say this all the time when it's not Newcastle related, but people did care, it just wasn't as visible to us in our Newcastle bubble. True, but awfully, it’s a media driven agenda of public outrage. For example, we’re all high-fiving each other about the quality of getting cheap snide football tops when if you looked into the reality of it they’re probably made in a slave sweatshop who’s government is actively using concentration camps to manage genocide, completely under most football supporters radar because it doesn’t make populist reading. World politics are fucking rotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 The world being truly rotten is still no reason to be cheering on the head of a murderous misogynist homophobic state visit, same as with those racist edl types i don't want hate to be welcome in st James park Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, RS said: True, but awfully, it’s a media driven agenda of public outrage. For example, we’re all high-fiving each other about the quality of getting cheap snide football tops when if you looked into the reality of it they’re probably made in a slave sweatshop who’s government is actively using concentration camps to manage genocide, completely under most football supporters radar because it doesn’t make populist reading. World politics are fucking rotten. Aye, this is exactly it. The problem is that when hypocrisy is pointed out, you don't have to look very hard. It’s nigh on impossible to live a life where someone can't point the finger and say 'aha, well you do this' because it's everywhere. No reason why we shouldn't want things to be better though eg manufacturers not charging obscene fees and pushing people to the grey market. Edited August 19, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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