TheBrownBottle Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 Is Howe’s press conference today? Was expecting it to be a couple of days before. Itching to listen to the man speak - he normally instills some confidence (and I’m not the one playing) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 05:00, TheBrownBottle said: Is Howe’s press conference today? Was expecting it to be a couple of days before. Itching to listen to the man speak - he normally instills some confidence (and I’m not the one playing) Expand Hasn't been working lately. Though I do feel we just need a win and we'll go on a run when players are returning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 05:00, TheBrownBottle said: Is Howe’s press conference today? Was expecting it to be a couple of days before. Itching to listen to the man speak - he normally instills some confidence (and I’m not the one playing) Expand 9am Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 04/01/2024 at 23:30, Matt1892 said: Fingers crossed we get to see the double pivot on Saturday then. Expand Not until we have the players to do it ie when Tonali is back. We did kind of try it at Leeds last season when Joelinton played a lot more central allowing Bruno to get forward a bit more. Abandoned after about half an hour cos Joe couldn't do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 I have an almost irrational hatred of the double pivot, not that it isn't possibly useless but there was a period where every team was playing 4-2-3-1 with 2 players in midfield sat in front of a back 4 and there weren't many goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 09:38, Tiresias said: I have an almost irrational hatred of the double pivot, not that it isn't possibly useless but there was a period where every team was playing 4-2-3-1 with 2 players in midfield sat in front of a back 4 and there weren't many goals Expand Agreed. Don't Villa essentially play with a double-pivot? They do it well. It's a lot more fluid than the old 4231 though. Often looks like a back 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 Kamara is a DM by trade so I guess his instincts will be to stay back. But I don’t know much about their system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 09:38, Tiresias said: I have an almost irrational hatred of the double pivot, not that it isn't possibly useless but there was a period where every team was playing 4-2-3-1 with 2 players in midfield sat in front of a back 4 and there weren't many goals Expand Its a system we should adopt away from home tbh - and should work well with Tonali - we’ve been too soft recently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 (edited) Edited January 5, 2024 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 09:45, The College Dropout said: Agreed. Don't Villa essentially play with a double-pivot? They do it well. It's a lot more fluid than the old 4231 though. Often looks like a back 3. Expand It is and there's a laziness creeping in in football circles where any set up with 2 CM's is labelled a double pivot. Also re Villa's back 4 often looking like a 3 when in possession.......does it sound familiar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 (edited) On 05/01/2024 at 09:53, AyeDubbleYoo said: Kamara is a DM by trade so I guess his instincts will be to stay back. But I don’t know much about their system. Expand Douglas Luiz plays alongside him deep. Luiz is more of an all-rounder, the progressive passer. In my mind it often ends up something like: Konsa Torres Digne Luiz Kamara Bailey/Cash McGinn Diaby Watkins Torres & Luiz progressing play from deep. Edited January 5, 2024 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 Did Howe given any soundbites in his presser to help calm our nerves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 09:53, AyeDubbleYoo said: Kamara is a DM by trade so I guess his instincts will be to stay back. But I don’t know much about their system. Expand Another successful team with a specialist DM. If only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 11:40, Yorkie said: Expand Not sure how to take his comments about running on empty. Is he saying the players aren't running on empty, or that he's just not using that as an excuse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 11:40, Yorkie said: Expand My man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 11:59, MrRaspberryJam said: Not sure how to take his comments about running on empty. Is he saying the players aren't running on empty, or that he's just not using that as an excuse? Expand Not using it or allowing it to be an excuse was how I interpreted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 12:03, dcmk said: Not using it or allowing it to be an excuse was how I interpreted it. Expand Worrying. Running the players into the ground and then not taking responsibility for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 No warm weather training this month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 12:05, Yorkie said: No warm weather training this month. Expand Haven’t watched but did he say why? Seems baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 04/01/2024 at 12:16, wormy said: Yeah it's a shame. I always take the 'his younger brother is even better!' stuff with a pinch of salt though tbh. Feels like it gets trotted out for any good young player that breaks through in football. In NUFC's case it's already started with Miley. Expand To be fair it's scientific fact. I think having an older role model, being to learn from their mistakes, getting into the sport sooner all lead to the youngest having the highest chance of success. You also have to fight more. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2021/03/25/revealed-younger-siblings-likely-have-standout-sporting-career/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 If we all chant double pivot twenty times at exactly the same time maybe it will be so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 12:25, La Parka said: To be fair it's scientific fact. I think having an older role model, being to learn from their mistakes, getting into the sport sooner all lead to the youngest having the highest chance of success. You also have to fight more. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2021/03/25/revealed-younger-siblings-likely-have-standout-sporting-career/ Expand That doesn’t make it scientific fact tbf - don’t ask me. Ask Phil Neville, Anton Ferdinand, Jobe Bellingham … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 12:40, TheBrownBottle said: That doesn’t make it scientific fact tbf - don’t ask me. Ask Phil Neville, Anton Ferdinand, Jobe Bellingham … Expand Matty Longstaff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 5, 2024 Share Posted January 5, 2024 On 05/01/2024 at 12:18, r0cafella said: Haven’t watched but did he say why? Seems baffling. Expand The sun's injured (groin) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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