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23 hours ago, STM said:

 

While this a perfectly sensible take... If its a game where we are drawing or winning and the result goes south because we've brought on some young kid... presumably everyone would give Howe loads of leeway?

 

There are quite a few disingenuous fans trying the old "I would have understood if we lost" patter. No they wouldn't, they would have destroyed him post match.

And games like the sheff Utd game? He waited until we were 6-0 up to take off trippier, Bruno and Wilson with Bruno not coming off until the 81st minute (and we were actually 7-0 up at that point).  They had 4 yellow cards so weren’t holding back either.

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1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

We were robbed by a bad decision. But the second half we were battered. We could have had no complaints if we conceded 4 or 5.  Pope was magnificent and PSG were awful in front of goal.  But we had no control, defence was committed but porous. Chelsea was the same. 
 

Howe just sits on his hands and hopes for the best. It’s infuriating to watch I’ll be honest.  Wolves was the same for 20-25 minutes. Burn just on toast. Trippier on toast.  Livra sitting in the bench. Time and again he does nothing until we concede.  
 

I wish he was just a little more proactive 

The principle is fine but who comes on? 
 

Like a lot of people I don’t understand the Hall situation but at times this season there was no one else. 
 

If I’m missing an academy / U23 product then please let me know but their results don’t suggest good sides filled with prospects. 

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6 minutes ago, Monters said:

The principle is fine but who comes on? 
 

Like a lot of people I don’t understand the Hall situation but at times this season there was no one else. 
 

If I’m missing an academy / U23 product then please let me know but their results don’t suggest good sides filled with prospects. 

Re Hall, I think they see him as a very good prospect but not sure as to where. From what I've seen of him so far he looks more of a midfielder than defender.

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If the Burn thing is about loyalty then Howe needs to learn fast that loyalty only gets you so far in football. There's going to be a lot of moving parts within our squad in the coming years and he is going to need to be more cut throat dropping players who have played big roles for him.

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2 minutes ago, Beren said:

I'd not be devastated if he replaced Southgate if I'm honest. Last season was a 9/10 performance. This year is closer to 5/10.

Good for financial fair play if the football association buys him out of the contract.

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14 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:


Fucking hell. 

 

He's been a great unifying spirit for the club and taken us miles from where he found us. And I'm not desperate for him to go - he's not a Pardew - but I am increasingly disappointed by him this season. To the point that if he's poached by England... I'd not be crestfallen.

 

That's just my feeling.

 

There could be better people out there for NUFC for where we want to go. Don't think that's madly controversial.

 

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25 minutes ago, Pilko said:

Livramento must wonder what the fuck he has to do to start a game.

 

Burn can only be in for his height, in every other respect he's a worse player than Livramento.

 

So the answer is "be taller than Dan Burn", which is fairly tricky.

 

I'd be fucking livid if I was in Livramento's position and I was being blocked from playing simply because I wasn't tall enough. Normally at least you can ask the manager what you can work on, but "grow 12 inches" feels somewhat unachievable. Especially for a position that doesn't normally need height.

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1 minute ago, Chris_R said:

 

Burn can only be in for his height, in every other respect he's a worse player than Livramento.

 

So the answer is "be taller than Dan Burn", which is fairly tricky.

 

I'd be fucking livid if I was in Livramento's position and I was being blocked from playing simply because I wasn't tall enough. Normally at least you can ask the manager what you can work on, but "grow 12 inches" feels somewhat unachievable. Especially for a position that doesn't normally need height.

Livermento out for the next 8 months due to leg transplants! ?

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I'm sure played Burn to to get him back in the saddle and restore his confidence. Unfortunately, Burn remains dismounted and looks shot against any pace.  Wilson looks shot too but there's no choice. 

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It’s still half time, but this shows our previous bad form has nothing to do with fatigue. Injuries and suspensions definitely played a major role, but there is another factor that caused our form to drop compared to last season, other teams have learned how we played last season, and they have found ways to beat us through bypassing our flat and high-pressing midfield and targeting our slow fullback. 
 

Last season, we took the league by surprise, no body expected us to be a top 4 team. Teams now have watched us play well, and they have analyzed our style and found effective ways to beat us. Howe has to learn how to counter that. 

 

 

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