Izakaya Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 15 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: I know. I was just wondering what elite managers you think the club might try to get IF they sacked Eddie Simone Alonso Inzaghi Italiano Rose Bosz Hoeness Allegri Conceciao Gasperini Pioli Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 14 minutes ago, vic said: There are top managers in this country,the likes of Frank,Iraola,Marco Silva Hurtzler? and Nuno are all fearless in their approach with less resources than we have. I just hope Eddie can turn it around. Are you confident all of those are better than Howe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 When’s lascelles back? Could do with his leadership on the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Are you confident all of those are better than Howe? none of them have done anything to suggest they're as good as Howe, it's mental stuff I'm reading at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: What is the main reason? I’m genuinely interested in what you think the problem is. A few things but I think the main one this season is that shambolic transfer window, and PSR overall. It's the elephant in the room and it's not only holding Howe back, but will also hold back any elite manager from coming here imo (if you're of the opinion that's what we should do) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 It's not just the poor results he's getting it's the manner in which they're coming that's the most concerning part, it's all well and good going toe-to-toe with a better team and losing narrowly but that's not what's been happening. The poor performances have been a common theme and that's mainly on the boss tbh, this is firmly his team and he's been around long enough to take the plaudits and the responsibility. Yet again the second half was dire, his changes made things worse and the players looked like they just gave up on him. The mistakes are now being punished and it's 2 wins in 11 in the League and that's pretty shit. He's definitely been let down on and off the field, he's had the injuries and insane cup draws last year but the same failings that teams exploited last year haven't been fixed, we still look clueless against a team that sits deep and still get sliced open on the counter. I think he's only got a limited amount of time to fix this and for the first time I'm not sure he's going to be able to turn this around. I love the bloke but he lives or dies by what his team are producing and it's been largely fucking pigshit for quite a while now. I'd love it if he turned it around but I don't think he will, I think he'll be out by the end of January and I'm genuinely sad about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 The point is Howe has failed for most of this season and with the talent we have it needs fresh eyes and instruction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, wormy said: I don't think there's many clubs in our position that wouldn't regress while we're unable to truly strengthen the first team for three straight transfer windows, whoever the manager may be. We reportedly bid £70m for Guehi in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, midds said: It's not just the poor results he's getting it's the manner in which they're coming that's the most concerning part, it's all well and good going toe-to-toe with a better team and losing narrowly but that's not what's been happening. The poor performances have been a common theme and that's mainly on the boss tbh, this is firmly his team and he's been around long enough to take the plaudits and the responsibility. Yet again the second half was dire, his changes made things worse and the players looked like they just gave up on him. The mistakes are now being punished and it's 2 wins in 11 in the League and that's pretty shit. He's definitely been let down on and off the field, he's had the injuries and insane cup draws last year but the same failings that teams exploited last year haven't been fixed, we still look clueless against a team that sits deep and still get sliced open on the counter. I think he's only got a limited amount of time to fix this and for the first time I'm not sure he's going to be able to turn this around. I love the bloke but he lives or dies by what his team are producing and it's been largely fucking pigshit for quite a while now. I'd love it if he turned it around but I don't think he will, I think he'll be out by the end of January and I'm genuinely sad about that Agree with every word. Exactly where I’m at. Gutted for him, I love the bloke but this is on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, Collage said: We reportedly bid £70m for Guehi in the summer. And I'm sure managers like Mourinho would be delighted with a whopping £70m summer budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Just now, wormy said: And I'm sure managers like Mourinho would be delighted with a whopping £70m summer budget. Fuck Mourinho, just saying that (if true) Eddie was backed and we were able to strengthen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Starting to sound a bit like Alan Pardew 👀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: A few things but I think the main one this season is that shambolic transfer window, and PSR overall. It's the elephant in the room and it's not only holding Howe back, but will also hold back any elite manager from coming here imo (if you're of the opinion that's what we should do) We’ve spent nearly £200m gross since we finished 4th, right? Putting this on PSR is a stretch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 14 minutes ago, wormy said: I don't think there's many clubs in our position that wouldn't regress while we're unable to truly strengthen the first team for three straight transfer windows, whoever the manager may be. Agree with this and I said as much in the summer - if you stand still in this league you go backwards. But the regression is more pronounced than you'd expect. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of our players have turned their eyes elsewhere having been sold a project that has clearly stalled, and that's why we're only seeing performances in big games and failures to turn up against the other also-rans. However, it's the manager's job to motivate them through that ultimately, and the squad itself is still better than the mean of its performances this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 2 hours ago, Whitley mag said: Not going to be great for PSR if we have to give Eddie a big lumper, but think that time is coming, the league position is simply unacceptable considering the money we’ve spent and players he has available. Eddie, Tindall, Jawal, Andy Howe, Simon Weatherstone, Simon Purches, Andy Howe & Dan Hodges would be quite the pay off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Yep to go back to 1960's wing paddock days "We need a manager".... Then on to Ant and Dec Eddie...Its not you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: I know. I was just wondering what elite managers you think the club might try to get IF they sacked Eddie Going by that logic you can never sack Eddie unless you're fighting relegation.. I'd give him a little more time, and if that fucks up our season, so be it. But I don't think that he's irreplaceable. Edited December 7, 2024 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Starting to sound a bit like Alan Pardew 👀 And cabbage heed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 We really did waste the opportunity presented when finishing 4th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Starting to sound a bit like Alan Pardew 👀 The interview I saw with him discussing that has probably been taken out of context. He was asked if the storm played a part in the game, he said yes but it wasn't to blame for the goals or the performance as a whole. He blamed individual errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 18 minutes ago, jackyboy said: I've always been a fervent supporter of Howe and still am but I really worry about his position here. I just can't see PIF standing by and watch us going backwards because that wasn't the plan. We were hampered last season due to a massive injury list but that can't be used as an excuse now. Disagree. I think they have MORE patience than our vocal fanbase. They are aware the EPL have shifted the goalposts since the takeover numerous times leading us to be inactive pretty much in the transfer market and actually having to sell players we’d rather we didn’t have to. Best start to a season and a QF with potentially a SF in our grasp and that’s without the FA Cup starting which without any guarantees would look to have us in the 4th round if we do what is required. Loads to play for with a bit of luck. Priority with the owners now is the revenue streams and maximise success under a restricted budget until rules are changed. Cant think of a better manager to have under those circumstances than EH. Keep the faith. A good January and the picture may look very different come May. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Just now, LFEE said: A good January and the picture may look very different come May. I have a suspicion the club won't back him if there is any doubt over keeping him, if the funds are even available to spend anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: We’ve spent nearly £200m gross since we finished 4th, right? Putting this on PSR is a stretch. I don't think that tells anywhere near the full story about our PSR situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 8 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: We’ve spent nearly £200m gross since we finished 4th, right? Putting this on PSR is a stretch. Squad cost is still 7th/8th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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