Theregulars Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 I think part of the gripe is that the club is back to looking disorganised and a bit foolish publicly (rightly or wrongly). It’s not long gone since that was our daily reality, and nobody wants to go back there. The PSR point is a big part of it but I think it’s reasonable to have doubts that nobody was realistically available to improve the squad. The club simply have to get better / more realistic about selling fringe and deadwood, although I accept that we can’t just force people and that Howe would rather show inclusion and kindness. There are some things that are just ludicrous and unprofessional to me: the keeper situation, the handling of the Gordon thing in public, de-captaining trippier when it turns out we still very much need him and being involved in a pretty squalid saga with a blowhard chancer like Steve Parish. I had hoped having someone like Mitchell would mean people like parish could be fairly easily dealt with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 12 minutes ago, Doops said: How can they only have a few targets they believe in though? In the whole world there's only a few? It's just very odd. If you can't get what you want then surely you compromise for the next best thing on what should be an extensive list. These guys are on millions of pounds to create a highly intelligent plan. I don't think relying on what we have is too smart. It doesn't look too good when you are relying on Steve Bruce signings to play centre half when they were bought ostensibly to play full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 PSR has a much greater impact if you forget the first lesson that there’s not much value in buying from the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 While I can see why the club might look disorganised, I don't think it looks particularly foolish. It's another case of "club priced out of top target". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 In all honesty and frankness its just delusional to pretend PSR isn't the predominant factor by far. In our delicate situation, entirely because of PSR, you cant dick around now like before taking punts on players that were down your shortlist that only might improve the team when its taking money off the table for purples you think will improve the team in the future and if they don't work out its storing up more of the same problem with dead wood which will restrict us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Jonas said: In all honesty and frankness its just delusional to pretend PSR isn't the predominant factor by far. In our delicate situation, entirely because of PSR, you cant dick around now like before taking punts on players that were down your shortlist that only might improve the team when its taking money off the table for purples you think will improve the team in the future and if they don't work out its storing up more of the same problem with dead wood which will restrict us. You also dont plan to spend your whole budget on one and have no backup plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 We did with Shearer. Worked out okay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Main bit that concerns me from that conference is that last revealing answer about has the window effected the players. Normally you would expect a straight bat denial, but he admitted that the players were feeling the same as the fans. Hints that people like Gordon and maybe others are potentially not in the right head space right now? Perhaps he just means the likes of Miggy and Trippier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Been willing to go all in with reported 60 or 65m on one player does mean there is money to spend so that's what makes this more maddening. Hopefully the club learn to deal with more of with the wheeling dealing risk style transfers Mitchell is known for. If we are constantly in threat of PSR shopping in the ready made Premier league bracket brings more certainty on adapting but doesn't appear currently financially viable Buying more from abroad will lead to more misses but it's potentially coming in at a lower fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 (edited) 51 minutes ago, huss9 said: crystal ball time. may have been an idea to sell a "name" eg Gordon. but we all would have fucking lost it. people say brighton have less ambition but they will overtake us this season. PSR is to blame. we arent in a place to risk more than £10m on a player unless we know he's class. The good news is we spent £10 mil plus £5 mil add ons on Osula so get the class fucker on the pitch Edwardo! Edited August 30, 2024 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 14 minutes ago, alexf said: Main bit that concerns me from that conference is that last revealing answer about has the window effected the players. Normally you would expect a straight bat denial, but he admitted that the players were feeling the same as the fans. Hints that people like Gordon and maybe others are potentially not in the right head space right now? Perhaps he just means the likes of Miggy and Trippier. Be amazed if he wasn’t on about Gordon after we offered him to Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 That is a very honest set of quotes from Eddie. Hopefully every player who may have been uncertain about their future - Miggy, Trippier, Wilson Gordon, Longstaff, Targett - can get their head right because we can still have a very good season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 3 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: That is a very honest set of quotes from Eddie. Hopefully every player who may have been uncertain about their future - Miggy, Trippier, Wilson Gordon, Longstaff, Targett - can get their head right because we can still have a very good season. They are professional footballers. I’m sure the Geordio home crowd will help them, as will Eddie and his staff. Follow Marc Guehi’s example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 (edited) Thought it was a very good press conference, as expected he has a realistic view of finances and a good relationship with the other people at the club. And repeatedly said we did not just put all our eggs in the Guehi basket. Edited August 30, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 If Eddie is being stubborn and rejecting cheaper targets from foreign leagues, he is playing a dangerous game. Mitchell has been brought in to find better value in the transfer market, not to splash record fees on PL players. I will imagine Mitchell, Eales and PIF will act quickly should there be a run of poor results. They will want a manager that aligns with their recruitment strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Thought it was a very good press conference, as expected he has a realistic view of finances and a good relationship with the other people at the club. And repeatedly said we did not just put all our eggs in the Guehi basket. He also said a lot of players had been unsettled this summer, and part of the reason for the difficult window has been the changing structure of the club. He’s very skilfully put a positive slant on an absolute mess of a situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 4 minutes ago, aussiemag said: If Eddie is being stubborn and rejecting cheaper targets from foreign leagues, he is playing a dangerous game. Mitchell has been brought in to find better value in the transfer market, not to splash record fees on PL players. I will imagine Mitchell, Eales and PIF will act quickly should there be a run of poor results. They will want a manager that aligns with their recruitment strategy. This is such 2 + 2 = 5 thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 18 minutes ago, cubaricho said: This is such 2 + 2 = 5 thinking. He's not wrong on why Mitchell's been brought in though, his speciality is bringing in players with big potential, and he will need to do that in future windows if we can't afford to spend big on the finished article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 5 hours ago, junkhead said: Very hard press conference, must watch for anybody worried about the failure this window. Absolute master class from EH. We are so lucky to have him. Wouldn’t swap him for anyone else in the league. Especially so in our current PSR quagmire… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 His face when she gets called on. He just knows the next minute of his life is going to be completely wasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 "I've actually got another question..." She's lucky the first one wasn't her last ever in that press room tbh. I've never been one for going in on her (Sunderland connection etc) but she's off her fucking rocker with the Tonali stuff. Wants a proper dressing down off whoever runs those things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Just now, Yorkie said: "I've actually got another question..." She's lucky the first one wasn't her last ever in that press room tbh. I've never been one for going in on her (Sunderland connection etc) but she's off her fucking rocker with the Tonali stuff. Wants a proper dressing down off whoever runs those things. Utterly bizarre line of questioning re Tonali, even more so than the last set of questions she asked about him which is a hell of an achievement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Just get her fucking banned, she can go and write some shite on the guardian about how on brand it is for the Saudis to be silencing journalists or something, the fucking sad cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 (edited) Why ban her? Just allow her to continue making a fool of herself. Eddie isn't like Bruce, he won't ever get rattled by stupid questions. Edited August 30, 2024 by alexf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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