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Eddie Howe - Granted Freedom of Newcastle

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Erikse

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4 minutes ago, Beren said:

 

Wonder who would be on the realistic shortlist.

 

It's a risk either way. Nomatter when you sack a manager, and nomatter who's available. Sometimes the big names fail, sometimes the unknowns are successful. It would be a test of whoever is in charge of the appointment more than anything imo.

 

 

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Whitley mag

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12 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Fair comment re availability but re the bit in bold; we spent fuck all this year which totally undermines earlier investment.

Not spending certainly wasn’t ideal and we’ve certainly gone stale, but think the regression in performances and results is way beyond the sum of our parts.
 

He’s just not getting the best out of individuals and tactically hasn’t been at it for the majority of the season, his interviews are even starting to sound worrying the last few weeks.

 

 

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1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Frank

Iroala

Poch

Hoeness

 

Complete guess of course and not sure if any are really upgrades.

 

Of those I think Poch is the safest pair of hands, plus he's mates with Mitchell. Wor chairman will just chuck a few quid Trumps way to have him released from his US contract.

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PSR is probably going to force us into a rebuild into the summer, isn't it? I'd be making any decision on the head coach with that in mind.

 

Howe either does enough in the second half of the season to earn the right to create a new version of the team, or we get our ducks in a row to make the change as soon as the curtain falls.

 

If it was me making the decision, I'd probably twist now to try and spark us in a league that's there for the taking from 5th down, but I think that's extremely unlikely and I appreciate it would be incredibly harsh.

 

I'd like us to find a playing style that isn't so reliant on the high press and that affords us some level of control without our lads having to run themselves into the ground.

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Few random thoughts

 

I backed Eddie from day 1, still do. I still think he'll get us out of this. I'm an optimist I suppose. However, that all depends on the players being up for it and still buying in, and only they know if that is the case. This job may have got the best out of him, like all the others before him.

 

He's a streaky manager. I thought when we beat Chelsea and Arsenal a month back, that was the corner turned and we'd go on a run. It's not happening. I don't know why and I get the feeling he doesn't know either.

 

How much of the chopping and changing the side is down to Bunce? I honestly think that historically to my mind, EH rarely changes the side and we have relied on momentum so much in the past, makes me think there are other forces at work. We don't want a repeat of last season injury-wise but I can't see how we couldn't have remained largely unchanged today. We can't seem to get that momentum and changing the side like today just doesn't ever seem to work, or rarely.

 

I don't think a change will be made until the summer. I doubt our owners are as reactive and emotional as the average supporter. That said, this season has been a mess. I honestly thought we'd make a run at top 3. No Europe to add games, fit squad etc. I feel daft, we're nowhere near that level. We can be on our day, we always give the top 6 a game which makes today galling and frustrating.

 

Dunno. Frustrated, disappointed, mostly in the players, some of it is Eddie and his stubborn and reactive style. Still love the bloke, hope he turns it around.

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3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

Yeah I feel for him. Top guy, but the Second half performances against WH, Palace and today suggest he’s incapable  of fixing it.

 

Biggest concern was that today was such a similar setup and approach as the West Ham game, and things played out in a really similar fashion.

 

Seems there was a failure to recognise the issues that existed with how we approached that game.

 

It's very very surprising, and pretty disappointing really.

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If i was forced at gunpoint to pick whether to back or sack? This would be the last time I'd still answer "back" after a disappointing result.

 

Needs to figure out a way to win the next 8 straight and move past this absolute clownturd of a run we're on.

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LionOfGosforth

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2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

For anyone who still believes Howe can/will turn it around, what makes you confident in that ? 

 

The performance midweek, mistakes aside, was not that of a side that will remain in a slump. There's so much guts and ability in that squad, the problem has been getting it consistently. I back Eddie and still do. Mainly because I just don't see an alternative at this point in a busy season. If we finish below mid-table and the right option in the summer becomes available, whomever that might be, i'd be sad but would understand. Sacking a manager mid-season rarely works out and can backfire badly. 

 

I tend to doubt anyone saying today that it's the end of the road, felt that way 4 days ago. I may be wrong.

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Just now, LionOfGosforth said:

 

The performance midweek, mistakes aside, was not that of a side that will remain in a slump. There's so much guts and ability in that squad, the problem has been getting it consistently. I back Eddie and still do. Mainly because I just don't see an alternative at this point in a busy season. If we finish below mid-table and the right option in the summer becomes available, whomever that might be, i'd be sad but would understand. Sacking a manager mid-season rarely works out and can backfire badly. 

 

I tend to doubt anyone saying today that it's the end of the road, felt that way 4 days ago. I may be wrong.


The performance midweek, though immeasurably better than the rubbish either side, was the definition of a midtable side at home on a Wednesday eve against very good one. We’ve had enough of being midtable alsorans.

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Just now, Ronaldo said:


The performance midweek, though immeasurably better than the rubbish either side, was the definition of a midtable side at home on a Wednesday eve against very good one. We’ve had enough of being midtable alsorans.

 

Disagree. We absolutely dominated them in the first half. We showed in 22' and in bits last season we have the ability to be a top 7 side. This season has been a mess from the start but it's the first period in 3 years where we've been unable to break the midtable-feel of things.

 

I just don't think it's a permanent thing and I blame the crap summer, boardroom upheaval, plus a really bad transfer window. The momentum has gone. Is that all Eddie's fault? If the players have stopped playing for him, then it's a short road and we know the outcome. Only they know why they can't get it together consistently. It's fucking maddening.

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15 minutes ago, Rich said:

PSR is probably going to force us into a rebuild into the summer, isn't it? I'd be making any decision on the head coach with that in mind.

 

Howe either does enough in the second half of the season to earn the right to create a new version of the team, or we get our ducks in a row to make the change as soon as the curtain falls on the season.

 

If it was me making the decision, I'd probably twist now to try and spark us in a league that's there for the taking from 5th down, but I think that's extremely unlikely and I appreciate it would be incredibly harsh.

 

I'd like us to find a playing style that isn't so reliant on the high press and that affords us some level of control without our lads having to run themselves into the ground.

 

 

I've been keen he has at least the season to turn it around.

 

But inreasingly I see the sense of an earlier switch. If we are going to move on, and the trajectory is clear - it gives a new manager at least a bit of time to understand what they have and don't have - before they have a transfer window. And maybe even a new manager bump to sneak into Europe.

 

The remainder of December is absolutely critical. Needs results and performances.

 

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1 minute ago, LionOfGosforth said:

 

Disagree. We absolutely dominated them in the first half. We showed in 22' and in bits last season we have the ability to be a top 7 side. This season has been a mess from the start but it's the first period in 3 years where we've been unable to break the midtable-feel of things.

 

I just don't think it's a permanent thing and I blame the crap summer, boardroom upheaval, plus a really bad transfer window. The momentum has gone. Is that all Eddie's fault? If the players have stopped playing for him, then it's a short road and we know the outcome. Only they know why they can't get it together consistently. It's fucking maddening.

I don’t think the players will ever stop playing for him, they have too much respect for him. I do think our better players may have lost belief in his tactics though. They certainly aren’t designed to get the best out of them.

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17 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

For anyone who still believes Howe can/will turn it around, what makes you confident in that ? 

He's not playing the way he wants to is the main reason. We want to be set up on the halfway line and keep the opposition penned in. We'll get there again but we need to refresh the squad.

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Just now, Beren said:

 

 

I've been keen he has at least the season to turn it around.

 

But inreasingly I see the sense of an earlier switch. If we are going to move on, and the trajectory is clear - it gives a new manager at least a bit of time to understand what they have and don't have - before they have a transfer window. And maybe even a new manager bump to sneak into Europe.

 

The remainder of December is absolutely critical. Needs results and performances.

 

 

I'd make a change now personally. We aren't winning the League Cup with the sides that'll likely be in the semi final. 

 

Could still salvage something from the season with a change as I can't see us getting Europe with how it is right now.

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