Gaztoon Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Get the sense alli care more about off the field stuff than on it.. I don't mean family aswell.. I mean friends and expensive bottles of ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) The way the takeover finally went down kind of fucked us. I mean I'm 1000% happy it happened. I think it just fucked having any kind of rhythm in terms of getting stuff lined up on the front end and implementing it smoothly. Not going to look a gift horse in the mouth, though. Edited November 4, 2021 by B-more Mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, NE27 said: When it all boils down, I don't think anyone has strong opposition to Howe, unlike we did with Bruce Pardew at el. I had high hopes that with new owners we would attract those fringe top managers, get a few players in and then world's our oyster. But with the emery rejection its most definitely handed us a dose of realism that this club is still fundamentally fucked from the inside out. Only a couple months ago I was honestly barely mustering the enthusiasm to come on here and discuss anything or take in the debate, because there was none. The football was barely talked about and instead it was arbitration and court cases and slimy PL directors. Fast forward to now, we have no Ashley, no Bruce. We have unfortunately been rebuffed by emery but our owners decided he was a good man to take this project on and I'm fucking overjoyed that they came to that conclusion. Considering what came before, I honestly afford these owners way more stock to make mistakes, it's only fair. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, kisearch said: This is what I can't get my head around. If he's turned down numerous jobs so that he can get the right opportunity, why would this situation be the right opportunity for him? It doesn't really make any sense. Why would taking on the richest club in the world make sense? He’s soon going to have access to a level of spending power and calibre of player he’d not get anywhere else. Edited November 4, 2021 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I'd go to Everton and offer them want they want to get Rafa - just looked on that grandoldteam forum and they absolutely despise him (and have done since his appointment) - it'll be interesting to see what happens if we still haven't got a manager by Monday and Spurs hammer them at Goodison on Sunday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 What @KaKa has been posting re: Howe is spot on. I was very excited about Emery and very disappointed when he bailed. Yeah, I think he bailed. He's at a club he loves, in an area his family is comfortable so I totally understand why he got cold feet. Count me amongst those who will think he'll regret his decision on a professional level. Such is the potential the club has. One guy wants to be here, a bunch of others didn't. Within reason, I'll take the guy who wants to be here. Howe, on a slightly smaller scale, I'll grant you that, has done what the consortium are looking for. He taken a team up through the tiers, punching above it's weight while keeping an eye on building for the future. He's impressed them with his vision and the detail of how to take the club from A to B to C, etc. Does he get to run the whole show? No. Someone like McParland is likely to come on board in some kind of role and a DoF will also be hired. Howe will likely have a say in who comes in but won't be responsible for running that part of the show. He will focus on on the field operations and have a hand in some other processes. He not a sexy continental guy. doesn't have wavy hair and speak with an accent. He's also not a dodgy PFM with narrow vision and lack of imagination. No one coming in right now is guaranteed success, bar Rafa. I don't see Howe as a safety net pick. I see him as one of a few very good choices looked at by the consortium and I think he has some solid credentials from his time at Bournemouth, He has some dynamism and al lot of smarts too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Why would taking on the richest club in the world make sense? He’s soon going to have access to a level of spending power and calibre of player he’d not get anywhere else. I would totally agree with the whole world's richest club thing if we weren't 6 points from safety and 10 games from the transfer window. It's these games from now until then that will define everything, including the players who will want to come, and what make it a big risk for him. As someone else said though, it's high risk, high reward. This job could make or break him. At this stage considering the other jobs he's turned down, I don't see him taking it, but we'll see. Edited November 4, 2021 by kisearch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 The thing that stings about Rafa is that where we are right now (not league position, but the people in control now and project opportunity) is totally the event he was looking for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, B-more Mag said: The thing that stings about Rafa is that where we are right now (not league position, but the people in control now and project opportunity) is totally the event he was looking for. And hes at a club he won't ever be accepted or loved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, B-more Mag said: The thing that stings about Rafa is that where we are right now (not league position, but the people in control now and project opportunity) is totally the event he was looking for. It was his job , can't blame him for giving up and taking over at Everton.. 2 months ago this takeover was dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, kisearch said: I would totally agree with the whole world's richest club thing if we weren't 6 points from safety and 10 games from the transfer window. It's these games from now until then that will define everything, including the players who will want to come, and what make it a big risk for him. As someone else said though, it's high risk, high reward. This job could make or break him. At this stage considering the other jobs he's turned down, I don't see him taking it, but we'll see. If he succeeds he’s hit the jackpot literally. If it goes wrong I’m sure he’d still get a shot at someone like Southampton or Brighton within a year or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 If he’d been available he would have been in the dug out for the Spurs game no doubt about it. would have been the perfect appointment but time to move on now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) I like Howe, wasn't keen at first but I have a feeling he'll do well here if he gets the job. He has an excellent personality and come across as tactically very smart but in no way arrogant. He's certainly done enough in his career to earn this kind of opportunity and he doesn't seem a lazy manager in any way. In fact I think he has rafa levels of maticulus planning. Definitely a modern manager and not the Bruce, Allardyce type so would be very happy if he's the man. From what I remember Bournemouth were a tricky team to beat for many teams, they attacked well and often too with a bang average squad. Edited November 4, 2021 by Scotty66 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) New owners always said this was a work in progress. Championship squad. 4th division facilities and a perilous league position is not conducive to a superstar manager. let’s get back to basics. Steady the ship. Hopefully survive this season and put the building blocks of aiming for top half over the next few years. Hopefully we have owners who follow our mantra of having a club that tries. Edited November 4, 2021 by RS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I believe Howe would be Sir Bobby’s first choice fwiw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrovianmag Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 At least Howe knows how to get the best out of Wilson and Fraser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, James said: I believe Howe would be Sir Bobby’s first choice fwiw Seriously, why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, Thomson Mouse said: Seriously, why? I was thinking the same ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, Thomson Mouse said: Seriously, why? He’d Howe for him, Bonny lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRM Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, jarrovianmag said: At least Howe knows how to get the best out of Wilson and Fraser Not bothered if he doesn’t play Fraser again to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, jarrovianmag said: At least Howe knows how to get the best out of Wilson and Fraser "[Fraser] has now played his last game for the football club. He won't be involved with us for the last nine games," Howe said. "I only want players who are fully focused on the relegation battle we have ahead and I'm looking forward to doing that with my squad." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, James said: I believe Howe would be Sir Bobby’s first choice fwiw Ffs Just picturing when Howe is appointed and the spirits of Bobby, Darth Vader and Yoda are all standing there in agreement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_AFC_Bournemouth_season I don’t see how injuries can explain the run of form there. The numbers are insane. Lost 20 out of 26 consecutive. That is on his head. Pardew Bruce or McClaren never went that bad Context is everything though, he’d been there a while maybe it was near the end anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I’m not really surprised the club are taking the line that the board were split over who to appoint out of Howe/Emery. Hope’s article said he interviewed better etc etc. I don’t necessarily believe it but the important thing now is they appoint Howe quickly to give him time to implement his strategy. I was really really disappointed after getting caught up with the idea of having Emery as our manager but the reality of the situation is (Rafa aside) Howe will be our best managerial appointment since Sir Bobby. Hopefully he gets enough of a reaction to keep us up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: It is yeah but that is seriously bad no matter what way you look at it. I was previously a big fan of his, but I just remember he looked like he had no idea how to fix it when it went wrong Mate if we get 3-4 seasons of progress out of him before that happens then I’m happy, although he seems to be able to reflect and change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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