Eddie Howe

[Yorkie]

Howe said a couple of pressers ago that Anderson had had fitness issues and, to me, also seemed to indicate that his head wasn't right; based on a comment (from memory) like "he's in a much better place now."

 

I concur that he's looked out of his depth on a couple of occasions and was worryingly poor against Sheff Wed in particular, but his cameos early doors showed a lot more promise. I thought he looked alright yesterday too whilst, physically, he looks ready to compete. 

 

He's definitely gonna get a chance now and I can't see too much harm (in terms of his personal development) in him getting a small number of minutes with us instead of a lot in the Championship.

[The Prophet]

I'm not sure why selling Shelvey has become an issue after drawing with West Ham and Bournemouth when he was only declared fit this weekend and played all of half an hour.

[gbandit]

People like to dig deep after some disappointing results

[Hanshithispantz]

8 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I'm not sure why selling Shelvey has become an issue after drawing with West Ham and Bournemouth when he was only declared fit this weekend and played all of half an hour.

 

I think @joeyt succulently spelled it out a couple pages back

 

 

We're doing great, but our striker and midfield situation is a pretty big fuckup.

 

EDIT: Unless I've missed people saying he was a problem with the West Ham and Bournemouth games specifically like? Sorry if that's the case.

 

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by Hanshithispantz

[The Prophet]

2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

 

I think @joeyt succulently spelled it out a couple pages back

 

 

We're doing great, but our striker and midfield situation is a pretty big fuckup.

 

I touched on this on the previous page. I don't feel we need another striker and while we could have done with an extra body in the middle, at this stage it's tough to know how detrimental that'll be.

 

[Scotty66]

1 hour ago, STM said:

 He's a bairn man. Spurs fans had Harry Kane written off too. 

 

Thank fuck Ashworth and Howe are making these decisions and not reactive fans.

 

Hard to believe this bloke could become the PL record goal scorer 

 

 

[Hanshithispantz]

@Ronaldo touched on it yesterday I think like, but we lack a target up top to hit when we need to bypass midfield. Wood, as shit as he is allowed that last year.

 

Obviously the money we got for him was too good to turn down, but losing both him and Shelvey will have a much bigger effect on the squad than people realise imo. Howe had no way to change the game yesterday once Gordon was forced on, both would have played a decent part (not saying we would have won like).

 

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by Hanshithispantz

[The Prophet]

Shelvey and Wood get better with every point dropped.

[SUPERTOON]

Literally no one has said that once.

[huss9]

6 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

@Ronaldo touched on it yesterday I think like, but we lack a target up top to hit when we need to bypass midfield. Wood, as shit as he is allowed that last year.

 

Obviously the money we got for him was too good to turn down, but losing both him and Shelvey will have a much bigger effect on the squad than people realise imo. Howe had no way to change the game yesterday once Gordon was forced off, both would have played a decent part (not saying we would have won like).

he really didnt.

(imho of course).

[Hanshithispantz]

12 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Shelvey and Wood get better with every point dropped.

You're completely missing the point. Shelvey is massively underrated but Wood is obviously a shit Premier League striker, as I said in my post.

 

However Howe never gave him 18 appearance this season for a laugh. If Wilson picks up another injury (or this one is worse than expected) we're left with Isak alone, nobody at all to tactically change things up top (think Keifer Moore vs USA) and an injury away from playing Anthony Gordon as a 9.

 

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by Hanshithispantz

[Hanshithispantz]

2 minutes ago, huss9 said:

he really didnt.

(imho of course).

His statistics tell us otherwise though, he won loads in the air. 20p head or not Howe clearly wanted us to target him.

 

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by Hanshithispantz

[Choppy Chop Chop]

The comment's here remind me why I steered clear of NUFC forums for a few years, except I'm now on the `HappyClappers` side now.  Just be happy even if its just for this season, we are not getting sucked into a relegation fight 

[keegshields]

2 hours ago, arnonel said:

I deliberately don't come on this forum now after a bad result. The knee jerk entitlement is so bad for the mental health.

 

Not sure what people expect. Destroy every team every week with our robots? 

 

This team. This team is challenging top 4 and it the final of a cup. This team filled with so many seemingly average players are absolutely smashing it.

 

Seriously WTF 

 

Can't we just enjoy the nice things for 1 season!?

This right here, this right here.

 

Sorry just watched a old freestyle on Charlie Sloth, Charlie said this BTW, not the rapper.

 

Start of the season top 8th would be the building block of what looks like a bright future ahead. Everyone happy after years of neglect. Yet we are now well within a top 4 finish and a cup final ffs. Sounds silly baring the amount we have spent, pales next to alot but football hey, but it feels alot more organic with a plan in place (not Chelsea). We're going places big time and I'm of the feeling this season will be the best mentally for alot of our hard-core suffering as, within time, it will become diluted naturally as we will be up there year in year out. This season We're punching well above our weight and that's all down to Howe. One loss, which was a robbery on all fronts, no way anyone could have predicted this. Give Howe is dues, who else could have done this and fits so right?

[Jaqen]

I don't think people are suddenly overrating Shelvey it's just we legit don't have another midfielder to play at the moment. When you play a 3 man midfield with a high intensity style only having 4 options in the whole squad is crazy. We are going into the Liverpool game with only 2 available and one is one card away from a 2 game suspension. 

[The Prophet]

2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

You're completely missing the point. Shelvey is massively underrated but Wood is obviously a shit Premier League striker, as I said in my post.

 

However Howe never gave him 18 appearance this season for a laugh. If Wilson picks up another injury (or this one is worse than expected) we're left with Isak alone, nobody at all to tactically change things up top (think Keifer Moor vs Holland) and an injury away from playing Anthony Gordon as a 9.

 

 

 

 

Wood offers absolutely nothing that Wilson doesn't offer. The only reason he got a sniff I'd because Isak has been injured. It's perfectly normal for a team who play one up top to have two strikers and a number of players who can fill in up there.

 

I agree we could use an extra body in the middle, but with the passing range of Botman and Schar, Shelvey's role in the side became a bit redundant.

[Dr Venkman]

17 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

@Ronaldo touched on it yesterday I think like, but we lack a target up top to hit when we need to bypass midfield. Wood, as shit as he is allowed that last year.

 

Obviously the money we got for him was too good to turn down, but losing both him and Shelvey will have a much bigger effect on the squad than people realise imo. Howe had no way to change the game yesterday once Gordon was forced on, both would have played a decent part (not saying we would have won like).

 

 

 

Promise I’m not just being a contrarian, and I agree with the point in general. However, Wood never looked a competent hold up striker during his time here, nowhere near.

[SUPERTOON]

3 minutes ago, Jaqen said:

I don't think people are suddenly overrating Shelvey it's just we legit don't have another midfielder to play at the moment. When you play a 3 man midfield with a high intensity style only having 4 options in the whole squad is crazy. We are going into the Liverpool game with only 2 available and one is one card away from a 2 game suspension. 

Worth remembering we have been playing all 4 of those CM options in pretty much every game this season up until Bruno’s ban.

[Zero]

Howe was not happy for Wood being sold in Jan. and, he put a 16 years old tall boy on the bench last game. The message is quite clear imo.

[Hanshithispantz]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Wood offers absolutely nothing that Wilson doesn't offer. The only reason he got a sniff I'd because Isak has been injured. It's perfectly normal for a team who play one up top to have two strikers and a number of players who can fill in up there.

 

I agree we could use an extra body in the middle, but with the passing range of Botman and Schar, Shelvey's role in the side became a bit redundant.

Wilson has just picked up his 4-5th injury of the season though. We have no youth strikers so will have to rely on wingers who we're also now short on.

 

Shelvey's role isn't redundant if we have no other midfielders who are anywhere near as smart in possession. I feel like I'm having to make incredibly obvious points here, like both Shelvey and Wood would fairly obviously be good to have at this moment in time? How is this even debateable?

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Wilson has just picked up his 4-5th injury of the season though. We have no youth strikers so will have to rely on wingers who we're also now short on.

 

Shelvey's role isn't redundant if we have no other midfielders who are anywhere near as smart in possession. I feel like I'm having to make incredibly obvious points here, like both Shelvey and Wood would fairly obviously be good to have at this moment in time? How is this even debateable?

It really is that simple, that is the exact point.

 

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by SUPERTOON

[Hanshithispantz]

4 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Promise I’m not just being a contrarian, and I agree with the point in general. However, Wood never looked a competent hold up striker during his time here, nowhere near.

His hold up play is terrible. You could probably have put any physical striker in his place and got similar or better results.

[Zero]

4 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Promise I’m not just being a contrarian, and I agree with the point in general. However, Wood never looked a competent hold up striker during his time here, nowhere near.

sometimes we just need someone who can create a bit of troubles inside the penalty area.

 

It doesn’t need to be Wood. We may not be in this shit if we just sign a cheap back up striker or loan someone from abroad during Jan. Same for Shelveys case.

 

The broad has gone too far imo.

[huss9]

17 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

His statistics tell us otherwise though, he won loads in the air. 20p head or not Howe clearly wanted us to target him.

 

 

 

stats?

he won a few (not loads) in the air but very rarely did the ball go to one of our players.

whats the point of that?

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Yeah but if he flicks a header on to no one and it ends up going into the channel with the opposition in possession that might end up effective for us because that’s where we press well.