Dr Jinx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I only see a handful of managers in the world capable of coming in and shaping that defence into something remotely workable until January. Rafa obviously but he ain’t coming, Conte, Mourinho and Poch but again, pie in the sky. Martinez wouldn’t leave Belgium right now either but also not convinced by him either, his last stint in the PL wasn’t so convincing. Has Conte ever had to work with such shite before? Even if he would come here there’s question marks there, working with good players no problem, but a bunch of unfit out of form players who don’t seem to have the heart for a struggle. You go back to Rafa, we know he’d do it and we also know the rest of what he’d bring. He’s the best option by a country mile. Same for Mourinho, he’d be able to do it but would he come? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Mourihno is a busted flush imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: I only see a handful of managers in the world capable of coming in and shaping that defence into something remotely workable until January. Rafa obviously but he ain’t coming, Conte, Mourinho and Poch but again, pie in the sky. Martinez wouldn’t leave Belgium right now either but also not convinced by him either, his last stint in the PL wasn’t so convincing. Has Conte ever had to work with such shite before? Even if he would come here there’s question marks there, working with good players no problem, but a bunch of unfit out of form players who don’t seem to have the heart for a struggle. You go back to Rafa, we know he’d do it and we also know the rest of what he’d bring. He’s the best option by a country mile. Same for Mourinho, he’d be able to do it but would he come? Breathing in some more hopium personally, but Conte is the only one from those mentioned I can see coming if it was sold to him, or if he actually fancied it. Conte took a Juventus side that finished 7th the season before to the title, and has been in relegation battles before at Bari and has led Siena to promotion. I just want us to approach him, if he says no then fair enough. But getting him in will give me as much of a buzz as the takeover going through did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, xLiaaamx said: Mourihno is a busted flush imo. he's organise the dfense though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, Barnes23 said: Hope you're right, but it remains an open question as to why Bruce was in charge for today's game, really. Not enough info to comment about the quality of the advice they're receiving just yet. It makes sense from their point of view, it would a risk to sack him without a replacement lined up. They probably wanted to see if there would be any bounce from the positivity around takeover before making that decision, and there was, it lasted ten minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I reckon Mourihno would still be class at a club with no egos to clash with (like ours), but his non existent record of developing youth or developing a club is a big no for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Gotta get someone that wants to be in all week, double sessions. Bruce's biggest flaw above all else isn't that he's stupid, or negative (though those are big flaws.) It's that he's downright lazy. Doesn't want to do the work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 No top-level manager is going to go near this job with this group of players. As much as I want the likes of Conte, it's just not going to happen. I think we'll end up appointing Lampard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/roberto-martinez-steven-gerrard-and-unai-emery-top-of-shortlist-for-newcastle-job-zkjcfpnl0 Newcastle United will this week step up their search for a new manager with Roberto Martínez, Steven Gerrard and Unai Emery emerging as leading contenders to replace Steve Bruce. Bruce had not been expected to retain his position after the takeover and a capacity crowd called for his dismissal. All decisions will be taken by the board of Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF), which owns 80 per cent of the club, with al-Rumayyan the PIF’s governor. It is thought Bruce will stay until a replacement is found. Martínez, the Belgium manager, is out of contract in the summer. He has worked with the Newcastle assistant coach Graeme Jones before and could combine club and country roles. Gerrard, the Rangers manager, who ended Celtic’s run of nine successive league titles last season, has boardroom support. He spoke of the Newcastle situation last week. “I think it’s interesting what’s happening at Newcastle,” he said. “I think if anyone deserves a break it’s the Geordie fans.” The former Arsenal manager Unai Emery, who won the Europa League with Villarreal in May, is also being considered, along with several others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: Mourihno is a busted flush imo. He’s struggled to fit in at clubs and he’s fallen out with players. I think he did a good job with Man Utd, but was up against it with the likes of Pogba who has far too much influence there. I see these moves as just poorly timed, the wrong place at the wrong time perhaps. Both Man Utd and Spurs have had and still do have problems that run far deeper than a managers skill level. Ole will be sacked this season, at some point and then what? Rebuild again? Nuno was being talked up for the sack after those three losses, these are not stable clubs. Maybe he’s found it with Roma, they sit 4th and lost to Juve tonight. Will he be given the time there to do what he wants? He’s far from a busted flush, just need to find the right home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Happinesstan Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, Disco said: The look on Amanda's face says it all. She knows she made the right decision. And this is while we're shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) No one has a clue. They only just reported we are only targeting managers out of contract. It's a big appointment. Of what is realistic and out of contract, Favre, AVB or Fonseca seem the best gattuso for the big gamble. Whether they gamble on no premiership experience is another question. AVB would he good in that regard. Favre seems like a great interim or placeholder. Fonseca could be shrewd or a flop. The horrible looming presence of Lampard is grim. Would be another year or more of press pals and pundits blaming the fans and their expectations rather than lampards short comings. If the new owners have identified someone for the longterm I don't think in or out of contract will make a huge difference. They will go for it if the feeling is mutual. Edited October 18, 2021 by toontownman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Would love if we manage to get Emery, otherwise wouldn't mind seeing AVB either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Good Ebening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Let's get Viera in, for next week. Then sack him and get Tuchel for the week after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, toontownman said: No one has a clue. They only just reported we are only targeting managers out of contract. It's a big appointment. Of what is realistic and out of contract, Favre, AVB or Fonseca seem the best gattuso for the big gamble. Whether they gamble on no premiership experience is another question. AVB would he good in that regard. Favre seems like a great interim or placeholder. Fonseca could be shrewd or a flop. The horrible looming presence of Lampard is grim. Would be another year or more of press pals and pundits blaming the fans and their expectations rather than lampards short comings. If the new owners have identified someone for the longterm I don't think in or out of contract will make a huge difference. They will go for it if the feeling is mutual. A big “no thanks” from me on Gattuso. Would genuinely prefer Gerrard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Just now, Raconteur said: A big “no thanks” from me on Gattuso. Would genuinely prefer Gerrard. Agree, he seems like a big bully manager that will fall out with players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I’m coming round to the idea that AVB might be the best option out there if he’s interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 He's still only 44? Madness. He's got 10 years experience and is still one of the youngest managers out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) Gerrard would make me nervous given he's largely unproven. But he seems promising and if it worked out I could really see him clicking with us. I'd be excited to give him a go. Is Martínez good? I always thought he was overrated at Wigan and then got found out at Everton - not terribly, but not particularly good. I believe Bruce finished higher with Wigan than Martínez ever did.... Edited October 18, 2021 by Inferior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Jose's the one who always goes on about how he loved Bobby etc, but interestingly he refused to go to his funeral because he'd fell out with AVB - who did go. AVB's as much a Bobby man as Jose he just doesn't go on about it like Jose does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Non of the names mentioned are making me sit up and take notice, Ten Hag from Ajax would be my choice, he has experience building clubs as a technical director and he could bring quality players to the club, he also doesn't mind breaking his contract mid season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 AVB or Favre seems a bit of a no brainer for now. Turning teams around are both managers bread and butter. Likewise Favre working with youth and a quick attacking style. The comments of some here that followed Dortmund would be concerning though considering how terrible our defence looks right now. AVB's temper maybe a problem too. What he did in a short time at Marseille was impressive and had he had better backing in the transfer market who knows where they would be. Not convinced with Fonseca at all. Reportedly interviewed poorly at Spurs and his sides are usually worse defensively than Favre's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnMag Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Im surprised if Gerrard is coming. Lampard is good example to him when rushing too early to bigger stages as a manager. And to us, it shouldnt be too hard to find better manager who keep us up with couple of new quality players from january transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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