TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, worthy said: Same space that threw away a game against 10 men. No lessons learned. and the same space Foden absolutely killed us in all game the week before that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) I am fuming at that twat for bringing off Tonali. Edited September 2, 2023 by Jesse Pinkman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Eddie needs to bed in our summer signings in the international break. I like all our new signings but we haven’t really improved our starting 11 with only Sandro being started. Even with that, Tino will never start ahead of trippier and so it’s down to hall and barnes. business is looking a bit ropey now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: He hasn’t been learning lessons from the previous game. The midfield setup is still easily ceding space behind the lines. Reminds me a little bit of when he first came in. What he was trying just wasn't working out. Obviously there is good reason to hope that it will click soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Would like to see this given a runout at some point: Wilson Barnes Isak Gordon Tonali Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 We finished 4th last season. We’ve spent £130m to build on that. Is anyone remotely confident we are capable of finishing top 4 again? Genuine question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Game for game we are only three points down on the same fixtures... So there is hope. And it's about what Howe learns from today that's important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronaldo said: We finished 4th last season. We’ve spent £130m to build on that. Is anyone remotely confident we are capable of finishing top 4 again? Genuine question. No but I think the owners were expecting the possibility of a blip. Ashworth mentioned it in the doc. Consolidating in the top 6 should be the realistic goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Cannot imagine how erect the same old posters were when that third went in. "An excuse for over the top criticism? My time to shine baby! " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: This isn’t *that* much of an exaggeration, mind. Mike Ashley isn’t in charge any more. It isn’t soundbite when PIF say they want us to be the best, they genuinely mean it and many more performances like this will see Howe as the transitional manager to give us the platform, before bringing in a proven world class manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: We finished 4th last season. We’ve spent £130m to build on that. Is anyone remotely confident we are capable of finishing top 4 again? Genuine question. No, never thought we would get close to top 4 this season. Don’t think the pressure will be on Howe to deliver it either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: No but I think the owners were expecting the possibility of a blip. Ashworth mentioned it in the doc. Consolidating in the top 6 should be the realistic goal. Realistically (looking at the other teams) we’ll be between 6th and 8th somewhere. Top 4 was never realistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Shearergol said: Realistically (looking at the other teams) we’ll be between 6th and 8th somewhere. Top 4 was never realistic yeah. Would be nice if everyone shared your sense of perspective, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: No, never thought we would get close to top 4 this season. Don’t think the pressure will be on Howe to deliver it either. What’s the aim then, if we’re not capable of challenging for top 4 despite the investment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Game for game we are only three points down on the same fixtures... So there is hope. And it's about what Howe learns from today that's important. One point isnt it? We drew at the Amex last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 We need an unbeaten run from now to Arsenal with no more than 2 draws to put this down as just a tough start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Ronaldo said: What’s the aim then, if we’re not capable of challenging for top 4 despite the investment? Top 6 (don’t think we get that either). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Ronaldo said: What’s the aim then, if we’re not capable of challenging for top 4 despite the investment? We've just mentioned what the aim probably is, man. Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 80% of his team is not trying. He needs to react. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Ronaldo said: What’s the aim then, if we’re not capable of challenging for top 4 despite the investment? Aim should be any form of Europe, so top 7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Our press very rarely misfires, but when it does due to player injury or poor performance, it leaves the defence very exposed and we tend to take a hiding. It's a calculated gamble that has been largely successful over the last few months. You can almost tell immediately when it's going to be "one of those days". In that scenario, it'd be nice to have the option of a DM type to bring off the bench to shut the gap between the lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Beth said: Yes, but we've only had three decent halves out of the eight we've played. We're still obviously going to win more than we lose this season, but we'll be miles off the top four due to lack of any squad depth. We won't finish top 4. The top 5 all get CL this next year. We won't finish there either. But I don't class that as a lack of progress. Last year was a freakish year. In addition to the wonders Howe and the squad produced, we had great fortune with Chelsea, Spurs and Tottenham not being at the races, and Man Utd having a shocking start. We had fantastic fortune with injuries too. I think the PIF are well aware that a repeat of last season, in addition to playing CL football this year and the demands it has on the squad, will make this a tough year. Anywhere in the top 7, playing European football and two more transfer windows to bring in 2-3 starters, will see us mount a credible top 4 challenge in 2024/2025. Which I truly believe was their plan anyway (I think their initial plan was 3 years to target CL football). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, 54 said: One point isnt it? We drew at the Amex last season. Yup. 1 point, same GD. Arguably we should have lost that game last season but should have won an awful lot more of those draws so I'm sure we will make it up. Fucking hard start man. Need a break! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) If you think that because we managed to achieve top 4 last season that should mean we do again and anything less is failure, you are a clown. Edited September 2, 2023 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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