The College Dropout Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, midds said: Main worry for me is the complete lack of intensity and energy so early in the season. For a club to come up with 'Intensity is our identity' mantra and play the way we have done for the last 3 halves or so is baffling. Not a huge sample size but the lack of clean sheets for nearly half a season would suggest something isn't working and needs fixing asap. Another worry is the suspicion that we've been sussed. Klopp and de Zerbi have utterly schooled him over the last 2 weeks and also given the rest of the league a blueprint to negate us and pressure certain players in certain positions and wait for the mistakes to arrive. We've looked sloppy, timid and disorganised and Howe will need to find a solution, either changing formation or personnel or maybe both. CM looks great on paper but it's being bypassed and far too easy to play through with simple passes. Hope he's torn a strip off the players in the dressing room tonight, they've totally let him down Great post. I think the 2 are linked. We’re getting overloaded in midfield and therefore can’t press effectively. And teams are drawing us out into positions we don’t want to be in. Teams man mark Bruno and say ‘find another way to play through us’ and we have no answers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 On 15/01/2022 at 17:27, The College Dropout said: Brucey was winning those for a couple seasons. Rafa, Pardew too. he doesn’t have the nous or even the jamminess. I’m scared. Such a disappointment. On 16/01/2022 at 10:02, The College Dropout said: I think a Gerrard would’ve helped with a new manager boost at the least. in our situation there’s always the chance players mentally log out because they know they won’t be part of the long-term project. A Gerrard appointment, certainly for the English players would energise them. IMO Bruce would have won more points if not for the toxic crowd. On 20/01/2022 at 12:31, The College Dropout said: Lack of linked CM's is really worrying. What is this man seeing? Quoted for the new pages to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I think also tried and failed to adopt more rest defence less press and it hasn’t worked. But we weren’t keeping clean sheets backend of last season either. It’s just that Wilson was on fire and others like Isak chipped in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: Quoted for the new pages to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Someone asked if he had said we were good yet and I said yes. You also quoted me without saying owt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Quoted for the new pages to see. Opinions change shocker. Since he’s put a good run together and I’ve seen what he’s capable of - I’ve supported him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, The College Dropout said: Opinions change shocker. Since he’s put a good run together and I’ve seen what he’s capable of - I’ve supported him. All due respect, but you should probably laugh at yourself a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Opinions change shocker. Since he’s put a good run together and I’ve seen what he’s capable of - I’ve supported him. Are you so serious in real life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Numbers said: Any links to him saying we were good? I don't have, no. He said we'd been good in spells and need to take our chances but also not need to give away sloppy goals in essence. Said he'd support the players and that he wouldn't overreact, and that ultimately we'd get it right. Got his interview spot on for me. Edited September 2, 2023 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: Are you so serious in real life? He's AI, he has no real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineblue Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, Smal said: Not really. Teams can analyse you and work you out. Both City and Brighton relentlessly exploited the half spaces between our midfield and defence. You need flexibility to counter that and we don’t have a specialist 6 in the entire squad. I agree great post, City have 2 DMs in there team regularly in Rodri and Kovacic. But now the window is closed, which player could you guys clone into a DM ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, madras said: He's AI, he has no real life. I think AI has developed more of a sense of humor at this point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) I’d love him to succeed here, I really would. I think he will, and I have to think that given I live amongst Man U and City fans who’ve relentlessly been telling me I’m wrong and he’s not the man to take us forward beyond the short term. On the other hand, we’re a one dimensional team who beat the opposition with running, pressure and forcing errors. The lack of intelligence and guile on the field stinks sometimes and I’ve seen little concentrated effort to remedy that in the transfer windows and the lineups. There’s too much insistence on playing a settled side too. Bobby and Rafa are streets ahead tactically of the other managers we had because they made proactive and preemptive changes during games and between games. We need to see a lot more of that mentality. Edited September 2, 2023 by Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Maineblue said: I agree great post, City have 2 DMs in there team regularly in Rodri and Kovacic. But now the window is closed, which player could you guys clone into a DM ? Potentially Longstaff if anyone for me. Purely for his energy and because I feel he offers less on the ball than other potential starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Heron said: You also quoted me without saying owt Mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Heron said: I don't have, no. He said we'd been good in spells and need to take our chances but also not need to give away sloppy goals in essence. Said he'd support the players and that he wouldn't overreact, and that ultimately we'd get it right. Got his interview spot on for me. I also think you can't take what he said there at 100% face value. To me, he implied we were a bit unlucky with the scoreline, but I don't think that at all. I think we were taken apart. Very soon after, though, as you say he also said it was a time for him to support his players. In other words, he wasn't going to come out and say it was a poor performance in front of the press. He has a history of being economical in interviews with what he really thinks. I suspect behind the scenes he's thinking/saying something a bit different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: I’d love him to succeed here, I really would. I think he will, and I have to think that given I live amongst Man U and City fans who’ve relentlessly been telling me I’m wrong and he’s not the man to take us forward beyond the short term. On the other hand, we’re a one dimensional team who beat the opposition with running, pressure and forcing errors. The lack of intelligence and guile on the field stinks sometimes and I’ve seen little concentrated effort to remedy that in the transfer windows and the lineups. There’s too much insistence on playing a settled side too. Bobby and Rafa are streets areas tactically of the other managers we had because they made proactive and preemptive changes during games and between games. We need to see a lot more of that mentality. Too early to say definitively he’s tactically one dimensional. But I agree with the sentiment. We’ve gone all in on Howe ball in the transfer market. No 10s, hard runners everywhere. We need to give him the full season and must not knee jerk at any point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) We're seeing tonight why Newcastle fans have a reputation for being self-entitled arseholes. After last season and how well we did, 3 bad results and some on here and on twitter are saying he's took us as far as he can. Honestly, what a set of utter cretins. Said it before and I'll say it again, the reputation we have is thoroughly justified sometimes. We have more than our fair share of complete whoppers! Edited September 2, 2023 by Scoot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Scoot said: We're seeing tonight why Newcastle fans have a reputation for being self-entitled arseholes. After last season and how well we did, 3 bad results and someone here and on twitter are saying he's took us as far as he can. Honestly, what a set of utter cretins. Said it before and I'll say it again, the reputation we have is thoroughly justified sometimes. We have more than our fair share of complete whoppers! Once again, it has been a very very small minority who post relentlessly when things aren't going well on here. Most of the responses in this thread have been totally reasonable today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Scoot said: We're seeing tonight why Newcastle fans have a reputation for being self-entitled arseholes. After last season and how well we did, 3 bad results and someone here and on twitter are saying he's took us as far as he can. Honestly, what a set of utter cretins. Said it before and I'll say it again, the reputation we have is thoroughly justified sometimes. We have more than our fair share of complete whoppers! We’re hardly unique in that respect. It’s the same everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 One thing about Howe is he seems to be a perfectionist. These results will hurt him as much as they do our fan's. We'll be back fighting soon enough, confidence is huge in all sport's. Once we get a couple of wins we'll be flying!!! Eddie Howe's black and white army!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Brighton and City are two teams setup to bait the press. Against both we seemed to be stuck in some middle ground of not wanting to play into their hands but not wanting to do a Rafa job and sit completely off them. Thought we did fairly well against Liverpool 11v11 were just starting to get into of them and punish them until the sending off. After that again we seemed to be caught not knowing whether to stick or twist. I'm fairly certain we'll see a return of the intensity and pressing after the international break. It was only last week de Zerbi was getting called a fraud on here and Brighton had been sussed and will struggle this season. Today they battered us and it's Eddie who has been found out and need to change everything all of a sudden. Unless your City every team is going to have games like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Once again, it has been a very very small minority who post relentlessly when things aren't going well on here. Most of the responses in this thread have been totally reasonable today. That's why I mentioned Twitter as well. I should have known and avoided it after tonight's game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Every fanbase overreacts after a run like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) Anyone know what a ' coshhh ' is ? An english translation would be nice Edited September 2, 2023 by Orphanage sp : ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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