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7 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

It's almost like the management and senior staff were at pains to highlight this season's schedule would be tough on the squad and may impact results.


I think there is a general acceptance that the extra fixtures and the difficulty of them would have an impact. However, you mitigate that by rotating the players you do have to best keep people fresh whilst putting a team out capable of beating the opposition.

 

If you still refuse to rotate Trippier and Burn despite the schedule and spending a small fortune on 2 young players to fill those positions in the future, then you are inevitably going to end up with leggy performances like what they put in today and people will question that.

 

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2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:


I think there is a general acceptance that the extra fixtures and the difficulty of them would have an impact. However, you mitigate that by rotating the players you do have to best keep people fresh whilst putting a team out capable of beating the opposition.

 

If you still refuse to rotate Trippier and Burn despite the schedule and spending a small fortune on 2 young players to fill those positions in the future, then you are inevitably going to end up with leggy performances like what they put in today and people will question that.

 

 

Don't think substituting our full backs tonight would have made much difference mind.

 

 

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Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Don't think being able to substitute our full backs tonight would have made much difference mind.


I disagree, we were out on our feet at one point and crying out for fresh legs.
 

The thing for me is that if we knew we had three games in a week so why not freshen it up throughout that period? You could have had Livramento start against Palace and Targett start today.

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1 hour ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

If we get 70 points, we've had another fine season, regardless of where we finish. Well played to those who finish higher then.

That’s a high bar for fine. Doubt we’re getting 70 points. Low 60’s would be my guess. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Great. Still, we couldn't afford to buy this summer. Unless another loan to buy option was available that we passed up on, we didn't make a choice to not spend elsewhere.

It’s not that we didn’t spend it elsewhere - I wrote £85m worth of full backs.  As in their value in the market was £85m.  Irrespective of the intricacies of FFP

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1 minute ago, cannybagoftudor said:

Steel is forged in fire etc - this season will be invaluable to Eddie and NUFC in the long run - remember we are only on the first steps of a massive journey - I am loving it. 

 

This is very true.

 

As fans we’re all (naturally) very ‘now’ orientated. Things can happen that can derail in the short term, even for a whole season (see Liverpool), but as long as everyone stays calm, we’ll be up and around the top end of things for a long time to come.

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I understand the comments about rotating players, but there’s no reason why many players can’t play 50+ games. That’s the way the top teams do it as well. Haaland played 53 games last year, Grealish played 50, Rodri played nearly 60. Salah has played 50+ games every year for 5-6 seasons. 
 

Trippier may be too old to play 50+ games but the rest should be fine. We don’t have too many old players in the starting eleven. 
 

I would like to see Hall getting a few games because he looks better on the ball and he’s also quicker. Our left side was the side they were attacking all game, Howe should have realised. Burn’s a good defender but Neto was pushing him very deep all game. 

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3 hours ago, Giselle said:

I understand the comments about rotating players, but there’s no reason why many players can’t play 50+ games. That’s the way the top teams do it as well. Haaland played 53 games last year, Grealish played 50, Rodri played nearly 60. Salah has played 50+ games every year for 5-6 seasons. 
 

Trippier may be too old to play 50+ games but the rest should be fine. We don’t have too many old players in the starting eleven. 
 

I would like to see Hall getting a few games because he looks better on the ball and he’s also quicker. Our left side was the side they were attacking all game, Howe should have realised. Burn’s a good defender but Neto was pushing him very deep all game. 

I think the problem people have with yesterday is that many players looked paggered after 65 minutes.

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Listening to Howe post match, he clearly didn’t feel comfortable bringing either player in in this specific situation in a difficult game. Sounds like he would’ve made more changes further up the pitch if he could but lacked options. Thats good enough for me. Hall and Livramento will play in good time. 

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44 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

Listening to Howe post match, he clearly didn’t feel comfortable bringing either player in in this specific situation in a difficult game. Sounds like he would’ve made more changes further up the pitch if he could but lacked options. Thats good enough for me. Hall and Livramento will play in good time. 

Not for me - I’ve defended the showing of livs and when asked upon he’s been class, why spunk £40m on someone you don’t trust. He’ll have no choice when tripps is burnt out, he’s 33 years old for Christ sake.

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4 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

Not for me - I’ve defended the showing of livs and when asked upon he’s been class, why spunk £40m on someone you don’t trust. He’ll have no choice when tripps is burnt out, he’s 33 years old for Christ sake.


Fair enough mate it’s all about opinions isn’t it. If either of them are still struggling to get game time next year I’ll be asking questions too. For now I’m not concerned.

 

 

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1 minute ago, ExiledGeordie said:


Fair enough mate it’s all about opinions isn’t it. If either of them are still struggling to get game time next year I’ll be asking questions too. For now I’m not concerned.

 

 

 

Concerned is a strong word, I just feel we may have got all three points with two new full backs in the pitch as their second was then cutting in from our left as well.  People were knackered and it wasn’t exactly out of the blue - we were all saying or thinking that they were gonna equalise.

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10 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

Not for me - I’ve defended the showing of livs and when asked upon he’s been class, why spunk £40m on someone you don’t trust. He’ll have no choice when tripps is burnt out, he’s 33 years old for Christ sake.

He also got MOTM against Man City and Grealish.

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5 hours ago, Giselle said:

I understand the comments about rotating players, but there’s no reason why many players can’t play 50+ games. That’s the way the top teams do it as well. Haaland played 53 games last year, Grealish played 50, Rodri played nearly 60. Salah has played 50+ games every year for 5-6 seasons. 
 

Trippier may be too old to play 50+ games but the rest should be fine. We don’t have too many old players in the starting eleven. 
 

I would like to see Hall getting a few games because he looks better on the ball and he’s also quicker. Our left side was the side they were attacking all game, Howe should have realised. Burn’s a good defender but Neto was pushing him very deep all game. 

The difference is that those players are in a team that has 70-75% possession most games, they aren't chasing and defending for a vast majority of the time

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Howe potentially wanted to keep Trippier on for his offensive threat and Burn for his height. Throw in general managers reluctance to swap around a back four mid-game too. Potentially not the correct call, but an understandable one.

 

I'm of the opinion it wouldn't have made a huge deal of difference as the problem was the exposure of the full backs rather than the full backs themselves, but Trippier wasn't at his best.

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