Keggy_Keagal Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 We played poorly , away from after a tough game in the Champion's League midweek and got a point. I love our manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 It's almost like the management and senior staff were at pains to highlight this season's schedule would be tough on the squad and may impact results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 In horse racing parlance we are firm ground specialists, hopless in soft & holding conditions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It's almost like the management and senior staff were at pains to highlight this season's schedule would be tough on the squad and may impact results. I think there is a general acceptance that the extra fixtures and the difficulty of them would have an impact. However, you mitigate that by rotating the players you do have to best keep people fresh whilst putting a team out capable of beating the opposition. If you still refuse to rotate Trippier and Burn despite the schedule and spending a small fortune on 2 young players to fill those positions in the future, then you are inevitably going to end up with leggy performances like what they put in today and people will question that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: I think there is a general acceptance that the extra fixtures and the difficulty of them would have an impact. However, you mitigate that by rotating the players you do have to best keep people fresh whilst putting a team out capable of beating the opposition. If you still refuse to rotate Trippier and Burn despite the schedule and spending a small fortune on 2 young players to fill those positions in the future, then you are inevitably going to end up with leggy performances like what they put in today and people will question that. Don't think substituting our full backs tonight would have made much difference mind. Edited October 28, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Don't think substituting our full backs tonight would have made much difference mind. Tbf they both had bad games. And we looked leggy in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Don't think substituting our full backs tonight would have made much difference mind. Would have made a difference in energy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, The Prophet said: Don't think being able to substitute our full backs tonight would have made much difference mind. I disagree, we were out on our feet at one point and crying out for fresh legs. The thing for me is that if we knew we had three games in a week so why not freshen it up throughout that period? You could have had Livramento start against Palace and Targett start today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vinny Green Balls said: If we get 70 points, we've had another fine season, regardless of where we finish. Well played to those who finish higher then. That’s a high bar for fine. Doubt we’re getting 70 points. Low 60’s would be my guess. Edited October 28, 2023 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Coffee_Johnny said: Doubt we’re getting 70 points. Low 60’s would be my guess. I'd say that there is a somewhat fair chance that we get near 70 again, which would be a brilliant season of consolidation imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 ROTATE THE FULL BACKS FOR FUCKS SAKE. Love you otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Gallowgate Toon said: Great. Still, we couldn't afford to buy this summer. Unless another loan to buy option was available that we passed up on, we didn't make a choice to not spend elsewhere. It’s not that we didn’t spend it elsewhere - I wrote £85m worth of full backs. As in their value in the market was £85m. Irrespective of the intricacies of FFP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannybagoftudor Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Steel is forged in fire etc - this season will be invaluable to Eddie and NUFC in the long run - remember we are only on the first steps of a massive journey - I am loving it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I don’t want anyone but Howe managing this club of course - and he’s done an incredible job. But I don’t see the harm in what feels like constructive criticism - every manager can be, ultimately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, cannybagoftudor said: Steel is forged in fire etc - this season will be invaluable to Eddie and NUFC in the long run - remember we are only on the first steps of a massive journey - I am loving it. This is very true. As fans we’re all (naturally) very ‘now’ orientated. Things can happen that can derail in the short term, even for a whole season (see Liverpool), but as long as everyone stays calm, we’ll be up and around the top end of things for a long time to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Hopefully the first team won’t be burnt out by January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I understand the comments about rotating players, but there’s no reason why many players can’t play 50+ games. That’s the way the top teams do it as well. Haaland played 53 games last year, Grealish played 50, Rodri played nearly 60. Salah has played 50+ games every year for 5-6 seasons. Trippier may be too old to play 50+ games but the rest should be fine. We don’t have too many old players in the starting eleven. I would like to see Hall getting a few games because he looks better on the ball and he’s also quicker. Our left side was the side they were attacking all game, Howe should have realised. Burn’s a good defender but Neto was pushing him very deep all game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Giselle said: I understand the comments about rotating players, but there’s no reason why many players can’t play 50+ games. That’s the way the top teams do it as well. Haaland played 53 games last year, Grealish played 50, Rodri played nearly 60. Salah has played 50+ games every year for 5-6 seasons. Trippier may be too old to play 50+ games but the rest should be fine. We don’t have too many old players in the starting eleven. I would like to see Hall getting a few games because he looks better on the ball and he’s also quicker. Our left side was the side they were attacking all game, Howe should have realised. Burn’s a good defender but Neto was pushing him very deep all game. I think the problem people have with yesterday is that many players looked paggered after 65 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Listening to Howe post match, he clearly didn’t feel comfortable bringing either player in in this specific situation in a difficult game. Sounds like he would’ve made more changes further up the pitch if he could but lacked options. Thats good enough for me. Hall and Livramento will play in good time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 44 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Listening to Howe post match, he clearly didn’t feel comfortable bringing either player in in this specific situation in a difficult game. Sounds like he would’ve made more changes further up the pitch if he could but lacked options. Thats good enough for me. Hall and Livramento will play in good time. Not for me - I’ve defended the showing of livs and when asked upon he’s been class, why spunk £40m on someone you don’t trust. He’ll have no choice when tripps is burnt out, he’s 33 years old for Christ sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Not for me - I’ve defended the showing of livs and when asked upon he’s been class, why spunk £40m on someone you don’t trust. He’ll have no choice when tripps is burnt out, he’s 33 years old for Christ sake. Fair enough mate it’s all about opinions isn’t it. If either of them are still struggling to get game time next year I’ll be asking questions too. For now I’m not concerned. Edited October 29, 2023 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, ExiledGeordie said: Fair enough mate it’s all about opinions isn’t it. If either of them are still struggling to get game time next year I’ll be asking questions too. For now I’m not concerned. Concerned is a strong word, I just feel we may have got all three points with two new full backs in the pitch as their second was then cutting in from our left as well. People were knackered and it wasn’t exactly out of the blue - we were all saying or thinking that they were gonna equalise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Not for me - I’ve defended the showing of livs and when asked upon he’s been class, why spunk £40m on someone you don’t trust. He’ll have no choice when tripps is burnt out, he’s 33 years old for Christ sake. He also got MOTM against Man City and Grealish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Giselle said: I understand the comments about rotating players, but there’s no reason why many players can’t play 50+ games. That’s the way the top teams do it as well. Haaland played 53 games last year, Grealish played 50, Rodri played nearly 60. Salah has played 50+ games every year for 5-6 seasons. Trippier may be too old to play 50+ games but the rest should be fine. We don’t have too many old players in the starting eleven. I would like to see Hall getting a few games because he looks better on the ball and he’s also quicker. Our left side was the side they were attacking all game, Howe should have realised. Burn’s a good defender but Neto was pushing him very deep all game. The difference is that those players are in a team that has 70-75% possession most games, they aren't chasing and defending for a vast majority of the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Howe potentially wanted to keep Trippier on for his offensive threat and Burn for his height. Throw in general managers reluctance to swap around a back four mid-game too. Potentially not the correct call, but an understandable one. I'm of the opinion it wouldn't have made a huge deal of difference as the problem was the exposure of the full backs rather than the full backs themselves, but Trippier wasn't at his best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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