MrRaspberryJam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Orphanage said: Because Emery was our first choice and hes seemingly done a better and quicker job than Howe ( with less money i might add ) Both went from relegation to CL spots in their full first season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Because Emery was our first choice and hes seemingly done a better and quicker job than Howe ( with less money i might add ) He’s not done either of those things btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Displayname said: Maybe he is struggling abit with mental fatigue himself Would be amazed if he wasn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Orphanage said: Because Emery was our first choice and hes seemingly done a better and quicker job than Howe ( with less money i might add ) Villa had a much better squad to start with I'd say, but I think villas form is also starting to drop, they've just carried a lot of luck with last minute goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: Both went from relegation to CL spots in their full first season? Villa are above us by a good margin and im willing to bet they will win something before we do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: He’s not done either of those things btw. Look at the table and then get back to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Villa are above us by a good margin and im willing to bet they will win something before we do Suspect Villa will falter next season too when they’re juggling European football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) The problem is that our high intensity play means we lose the ball often, we create a lot of chaos but games like these would require patience and keeping the possession. Our midfield has only Bruno and perhaps Miley suited to that. Almiron loses the ball waaaay too often. Burn boots it long when under pressure etc. Edited December 23, 2023 by KingArthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: Suspect Villa will falter next season too when they’re juggling European football. They are this season as well just not to the same level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Emery has done brilliant, bit odd to say he's done better than Howe like given he objectively hasn't yet We've finished 4th and been to a cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Because Emery was our first choice and hes seemingly done a better and quicker job than Howe ( with less money i might add ) Considering he started from a much higher platform and is yet to achieve anything, I'd disagree. Granted both are very good coaches and Emery could do well this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: He’s not done either of those things btw. His points per game is better than Howe’s, but Emery’s starting point was far superior. I think they’re both excellent managers tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, El Prontonise said: They are this season as well just not to the same level. Aye. But when they’re playing the PSGs and Dortmunds etc. and require full strength starting XI.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) Find the Emery/Howe debate a bit pointless. Howe finished above Emery last year and beat him 5-1 this year so on a head to head Howe can beat an Emery side If you look at it outside of just head to head, Emery is the more experienced and accomplished manager at the top level but this does not mean Howe doesn't have the nous to get himself to a level even higher than what he's accomplished for us so far. As others have said, the situation we find ourself in should not be the end for Howe but it may very well be if it is repeated and not learnt from and addressed properly next season. If Villa qualify for Champions League lets see how their domestic season plays out next year, and in fact lets how their domestic season ends up playing out this year. They might still finish 5th rather than top 4. My hope is (just like many others here) Howe wins us many things and becomes the best manager he can be during his time year. Edited December 23, 2023 by Amir_9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Look at the table and then get back to me You said he’s done it quicker than Howe, Howe did it in his first full season. We had a worse squad and were in a far worse position than Villa when Emery took over. It’s not even debatable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Beale should be available in early / mid January, perhaps he's in the convo to take over from Eddie ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Suspect Villa will falter next season too when they’re juggling European football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Ronaldo said: You know exactly what I mean you boring miserable bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Amir_9 said: Find the Emery/Howe debate a bit pointless. Howe finished above Emery last year Not from when Emery got the job, to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Villa are above us by a good margin and im willing to bet they will win something before we do Dunno about that, we're a club on the up as well just as much as they are. I'd have us down as having a lot more potential for success in the future. Villa could end up winning the Conference League this season but we'd probably do the same if it was us in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Beale should be available in early / mid January, perhaps he's in the convo to take over from Eddie ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I wonder what Emery and his unwavering high line would have done if he was here atm to have us in the top 4 apparently. Resort to witchcraft? Shamanism? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) Possession football still requires energy, running, and speed. Creative players need others to make runs for them to actually be creative. We've blown away some teams sit back this season already. To me, it seems to be a confidence thing. The board need to back him in January. Edited December 23, 2023 by Gallowgate Toon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: You know exactly what I mean you boring miserable bastard. I knew you were exactly wrong as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: I wonder what Emery and his unwavering high line would have done if he was here atm to have us in the top 4 apparently. Resort to witchcraft? Shamanism? That same high that that Newcastle tore apart with a full strength squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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