Kid Icarus Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 7 minutes ago, Begbie said: You sound like a very intelligent constructive guy. Looking forward to your next post. Unsurprisingly your last one was the last time we lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 He was technically 'right' to take Isak off, he wasn't playing well and it wasn't working, it's just odd/unconventional/brave/whatever you want to call it to take off a player with his record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 11 minutes ago, Begbie said: You sound like a very intelligent constructive guy. Looking forward to your next post. "guy" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 49 minutes ago, toon25 said: Barnes should have started today Thought he was dreadful when he came on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 35 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said: "guy" He’s not your guy, friend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Was a throwback to last season where we struggled to break down a side happy to play for a draw. Got in some good positions but suffered from terrible decision making and/or poor final ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 50 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Because it’s not down to injuries. It’s a conscious decision to play him and failure the properly address the issue of RW. To be fair, all the noises coming out are that we most definitely will be addressing it this offseason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Not seen the game but we haven’t been beaten at home in the league since 13 Jan and that was Man City - that game being the only league home defeat in 2024 so I’m not going to get upset because we’re not winning all of them. Been an amazing season for me all things considering and imo it’s simply just a shame we didn’t get the win and that’s all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LionOfGosforth Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Most of Eddie's frustrating tendencies came to the fore today unfortunately. Pretty shit first half, could have been 2 or 3 down, bailed out by a nice goal on the stroke of half time. Change it then surely since it wasn't working? Nope, got to wait. Murphy got nearly 70 minutes, not sure why. I do like him, great lad but so limited. Not that the replacements were great, Barnes was awful, but still a bit aggravating when you need the win and he's providing nowt. Pope fit enough to be on the bench. Play him man. Too much loyalty to an average keeper. Think we'd have 6th nailed if we'd been a bit less charitable at home. Left quite a few points on the table between Liverpool, Everton, Brighton, Luton, Forest. On the flip side, some brilliant wins against Spurs, Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal, Villa, Palace (that one feels like years ago). All told, today was just frustrating, rather than shit. Players were off it most of the game. It's been a pretty remarkable season given the circumstances whether we finish 6th, 7th whatever and I love this bloke. Excited for next season, Europe or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, LionOfGosforth said: Most of Eddie's frustrating tendencies came to the fore today unfortunately. Pretty shit first half, could have been 2 or 3 down, bailed out by a nice goal on the stroke of half time. Change it then surely since it wasn't working? Nope, got to wait. Murphy got nearly 70 minutes, not sure why. I do like him, great lad but so limited. Not that the replacements were great, Barnes was awful, but still a bit aggravating when you need the win and he's providing nowt. Pope fit enough to be on the bench. Play him man. Too much loyalty to an average keeper. Think we'd have 6th nailed if we'd been a bit less charitable at home. Left quite a few points on the table between Liverpool, Everton, Brighton, Luton, Forest. On the flip side, some brilliant wins against Spurs, Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal, Villa, Palace (that one feels like years ago). All told, today was just frustrating, rather than shit. Players were off it most of the game. It's been a pretty remarkable season given the circumstances whether we finish 6th, 7th whatever and I love this bloke. Excited for next season, Europe or not. Don't disagree with much of that other than the start of the second paragraph. It's not our home games that have cost us this season, we've done just as well this season at home as we did last season. It's the away games, majority of them have been either poor results or poor performances or a combination of both. We've got a long way to go before we can look at games like this against Brighton or Everton or even Forrest at St James's and expect us to beat them every single time, it's just not where we are yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, Mazzy said: Don't disagree with much of that other than the start of the second paragraph. It's not our home games that have cost us this season, we've done just as well this season at home as we did last season. It's the away games, majority of them have been either poor results or poor performances or a combination of both. We've got a long way to go before we can look at games like this against Brighton or Everton or even Forrest at St James's and expect us to beat them every single time, it's just not where we are yet. Yeah, I didn't really mean we should just expect to turn up and beat them. In all 3 games it was there for us and we just didn't play well enough in any of them. Forest was the nadir of the season, the pinnacle of the injuries catching up with us. Think we win today most times, the performance just didn't really warrant it and we held ourselves up with waiting too long to change it, then the subs were largely poor anyway. Everton, we didn't play great either just gave it away at the end. Agree that our away form particularly in the winter was atrocious. Just meant home points are generally easier to come by, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 3 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: Yeah, I didn't really mean we should just expect to turn up and beat them. In all 3 games it was there for us and we just didn't play well enough in any of them. Forest was the nadir of the season, the pinnacle of the injuries catching up with us. Think we win today most times, the performance just didn't really warrant it and we held ourselves up with waiting too long to change it, then the subs were largely poor anyway. Everton, we didn't play great either just gave it away at the end. Agree that our away form particularly in the winter was atrocious. Just meant home points are generally easier to come by, No I know and that bit wasn't aimed specifically at you, more to the fact that I've seen it so often over the last couple of weeks particularly where people will say "if only we'd beaten team X and team Y, we'd be in 5th already" and that's all well and good but we've also lucked out in a few games and got point we probably didn't deserve. Same goes for the teams around us, they probably all think they should have more points but that's the great thing about a 38 game season, you get what you deserve at the end of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 minutes ago, Mazzy said: No I know and that bit wasn't aimed specifically at you, more to the fact that I've seen it so often over the last couple of weeks particularly where people will say "if only we'd beaten team X and team Y, we'd be in 5th already" and that's all well and good but we've also lucked out in a few games and got point we probably didn't deserve. Same goes for the teams around us, they probably all think they should have more points but that's the great thing about a 38 game season, you get what you deserve at the end of it. Think it's the natural tendency of a football fan to recall the games where it didn't quite fall for you, rather than recall the lucky wins. There have been a few, like Brentford home with a jammy pen iirc, but a majority of our wins have been decisive. And yeah, generally over a season, you end up where you deserve to. At my age, seen enough seasons to learn that nugget. 89/90 one of the few exceptions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 It was annoying that he didn’t address the glaring hole in the midfield throughout the entire game that their keeper just constantly kept picking passes straight into. The man to man pressing was causing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 23 minutes ago, Jordan said: It was annoying that he didn’t address the glaring hole in the midfield throughout the entire game that their keeper just constantly kept picking passes straight into. The man to man pressing was causing it. He was expecting two cart horses in central defence to manage that and unsurprisingly they didn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 That was the risk we were taking going for a man to man press further up the field though. They literally wanted to go sideways unopposed and get out that way but we made them go long. We ended up with 55% possession The most frustrating thing was in the final 3rd. Fucking shite from Gordon Murphy and isak on the main Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 4 minutes ago, jack j said: That was the risk we were taking going for a man to man press further up the field though. They literally wanted to go sideways unopposed and get out that way but we made them go long. We ended up with 55% possession The most frustrating thing was in the final 3rd. Fucking shite from Gordon Murphy and isak on the main Never going to work with Burn and Krafth though as they're just too slow. I agree about Murphy, Gordon was ok but fucked up a couple of times when well placed and Isac just never got the ball despite making numerous runs. I still can't understand why Isac was brought off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Unsurprising that people who know fuck all about football picking holes in the way we played. Standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, RS said: Unsurprising that people who know fuck all about football picking holes in the way we played. Standard. Talking about yourself, because if you can't see some of the points being made about today, then there is only you showing a clueless tendency Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 He's been relying on his squad fillers for months now and that's always a risky business. They're not starters in the first XI for very good reasons but having 5 or 6 in there every week AND getting good results isn't sustainable and I think we saw that today. It was a substandard performance but the team was full of substandard (relatively speaking) players. If we'd been able to start Pope, Trippier, Botman, Schar, Tino, Joelinton, Bruno, Tonali, Gordon, Barnes, Isak today then we'd have won by a couple. But having to switch out 7 of them and slot in the likes of Longstaff, Krafth etc makes things really fucking difficult like. I think he could have changed it up a bit earlier and tweaked a few things but it's not always going to go our way at times. They dug in and made it difficult and we didn't do enough and that happens. Not going to flip out tonight about things, it's not the end of the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 12 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Never going to work with Burn and Krafth though as they're just too slow. I agree about Murphy, Gordon was ok but fucked up a couple of times when well placed and Isac just never got the ball despite making numerous runs. I still can't understand why Isac was brought off. Isak been ill apparently as well I was surprised in the ground when he came off mind. I don't think that big gap hurt us that much in the middle. That was just the risk we were taking pressing them like that. Don't think they really hurt us with that ball through the middle did they? Was our lack of quality that fucked us today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 6 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Talking about yourself, because if you can't see some of the points being made about today, then there is only you showing a clueless tendency I’m clueless but think we are massively over performing with the SQUAD we’ve got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Just now, RS said: I’m clueless but think we are massively over performing with the SQUAD we’ve got. I wouldn't actually argue with you with that to be fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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