80 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 22 minutes ago, TRon said: You would think that the way some of the heads seem to be down, but I don't think so. Maybe they don't all buy into the tactics though. I think this might be it. I think they're loyal to him as a man, but I'm not sure they have faith in the system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 24 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Last year we had some high quality rotations and patterns of play. What the fuck happened? It's a mystery to me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: It's three points away. We're also a win away from most of these posters not posting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Groundhog63 said: Some fucking right whiney, deluded, ungrateful fannied on here mind. Unsurprisingly No need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago I’m probably going to get pelters but Eddie is a very,very good football coach not a manager. A lot of elite managers leave training to their first team coaches. Eddie tries to do both but he can’t at the highest level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: It's three points away. Not sure that will be the case once this weekends fixtures have played out. Plus I imagine the second half of the season will be a lot harder than the first since we had a relatively easy start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Some fucking right whiney, deluded, ungrateful fannied on here mind. Unsurprisingly Only one person whining and making sweeping statements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Beren said: Not being sarcy, but if you become unconvinced he's the person to lead Newcastle to more than being a top half side, why would you continue to back him? Because he deserves our backing still. He's done wonderful things for us whilst he's been here and if we are to replace him at some point, that's out of my control anyway. That's a club decision that will be made whether Eddie has the backing of the fans or not. Like I say, I still hope he can turn it around and as long as I have that hope, I'll back him 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: If we wait till summer it’s another season of failure surely? Apart from the happyclapper (forget his name), Ian W and a couple of Americans who on here still thinks we finish top 5/6? Think too 5/6 is out of question regardless if Howe is sacked. It’s his unbalanced squad. I think we need a rethink too to bottom. But Howe should see out the season barring catastrophe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Do you think we can attract an elite manager? Nah, we'll end up with Jose and in that scenario I'd rather stick with Eddie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago I’m sure some of you have done a 180 on Howe in 6 months. You are very scary people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Scoot said: Because he deserves our backing still. He's done wonderful things for us whilst he's been here and if we are to replace him at some point, that's out of my control anyway. That's a club decision that will be made whether Eddie has the backing of the fans or not. Like I say, I still hope he can turn it around and as long as I have that hope, I'll back him 100%. So did Keegan but he hit his ceiling. bit of devilish advocacy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, The College Dropout said: Think too 5/6 is out of question regardless if Howe is sacked. It’s his unbalanced squad. I think we need a rethink too to bottom. But Howe should see out the season barring catastrophe. Easiest start in years yet we're midtable. Wouldn't be surprised if he's gone before the new year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Scoot said: Because he deserves our backing still. He's done wonderful things for us whilst he's been here and if we are to replace him at some point, that's out of my control anyway. That's a club decision that will be made whether Eddie has the backing of the fans or not. Like I say, I still hope he can turn it around and as long as I have that hope, I'll back him 100%. Fair enough. I'd like to think (naively or not) this ownership would be less dismissive of the fan view, and there is at a least a tacit consideration of fan sentiment. If that day comes - and it doesn't need to be nast/uglyy - I think it's fine for the mood music to change about whether Howe has fan backing for the long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, The Butcher said: Easiest start in years yet we're midtable. I want him gone before the new year. FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: Easiest start in years yet we're midtable. Wouldn't be surprised if he's gone before the new year. So what? a poor 13 games and you want him out? There not even an obvious upgrade available. What do you expect this squad to achieve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 4 points off 3rd but must....call it...mid...table (in November) Edited 10 hours ago by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I’m sure some of you have done a 180 on Howe in 6 months. You are very scary people. If I understood this I might be offended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, Beren said: Fair enough. I'd like to think (naively or not) this ownership would be less dismissive of the fan view, and there is at a least a tacit consideration of fan sentiment. If that day comes - and it doesn't need to be nast/uglyy - I think it's fine for the mood music to change about whether Howe has fan backing for the long term. The fans are nowhere near wanting Howe gone.... well unless you take what you read on a football forum or twitter as your metric. As always, it's the extreme end of opinions. Some healthy criticism aside, most people who I speak to are still absolutely behind him. Of course, like anything else. If you keep getting beat... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago So how long do we give him, until the string runs out, or do we strike now, whilst we still have the chance of top 4/6 , much longer and our position may become untenable and resulting in the manager departing anyways, better proactive as opposed to reactive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 8 minutes ago, STM said: I'd rather get rid of a host of players before losing the manager. Things are a bit stale, some poor decision making at either end of the pitch and the side are lacking some confidence/motivation for whatever reason. I'd be looking at a bit of a fire sale and a mini rebuild. We've got some really great things about our squad. I'd pretty much take offers for most of our players, in order to be able to do some business in the transfer market. Eddie Howe is, at minimum, a good manager. We've had 3 managers in the PL era who can sit at the same table as him, in 30 years of football. In my opinion, losing him would be catastrophic. I could be open-minded to this, but the question is whether Eddie is saying internally that the squad needs to ditch a load of first team players and have a rebuild. Or does he think dropping Schar for Guehi would've had us achieve an extra 6+ points so far this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: So what? a poor 13 games and you want him out? There not even an obvious upgrade available. What do you expect this squad to achieve? Spot on. We are slightly under achieving with this squad and it's not had any investment in 18 months. Sell some players, sign some players and let him go again, this time from a stronger spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, STM said: The fans are nowhere near wanting Howe gone.... well unless you take what you read on a football forum or twitter as your metric. As always, it's the extreme end of opinions. Some healthy criticism aside, most people who I speak to are still absolutely behind him. Of course, like anything else. If you keep getting beat... The fans opinion means absolutely nothing either way, same as the stadium it will be solely down to what the owners decide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 33 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Last year we had some high quality rotations and patterns of play. What the fuck happened? Trippier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Scoot said: He doesn't look like he knows what to do... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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