AyeDubbleYoo Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 4 hours ago, Holmesy said: Isak wasn't a ready made guaranteed to get you goals. He was a very good striker but a calculated risk who came from another league, but I would say he's worked out ok. Other teams seem to be able to identify talent from overseas and make them work as well. It's a fucking nonsense! The PL is far more like other continental leagues now than it ever was and players are protected from the physicality that originally defined the PL - that was often the make or break. Almost no PL clubs buy strikers proven to score goals here. Proven to score goals somewhere else, maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Erikse said: Their net spent over the past 5 years is lower than ours, when we're talking about transfer fees. The thing is they have sold players for a good fee aswell (Mane and Fabinho for instance). Going back further, to 2017 when they bought Salah, they also sold Coutinho for 135 mill euros. That's less than the price they paid for van Dijk and Salah combined in that very same window. I look at that Liverpool team of players and what they're achieving, and it doesn't look completely impossible for us to achieve. The massive call they made to hand over the keys to Michael Edwards, which apparently came at the cost of losing Klopp, looks like it's going to pay off big time for them. We need to get our recruitment in order. Both selling and buying at the right time, and adequately filling out the squad so it is much better balanced. I think Howe has the potential as a manager too, but that will all depend on how open minded he is to the changes we need to make in recruitment, and also if he can continue to develop tactically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Almost no PL clubs buy strikers proven to score goals here. Proven to score goals somewhere else, maybe. Can’t even remember the last time it happened to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Callum Wilson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Solanke this past summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Can’t even remember the last time it happened to be fair. If we're talking any club, then Solanke. Could mention a couple of older players like Wood and Ings aswell. Ings obviously didn't work out, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago TBF Wilson and Wood were proven PL strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago The last top quality one might be Van Persie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 10 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Almost no PL clubs buy strikers proven to score goals here. Proven to score goals somewhere else, maybe. Solanke? Although to be fair it was alot of championship and not consistently season after season so maybe not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 10 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Almost no PL clubs buy strikers proven to score goals here. Proven to score goals somewhere else, maybe. And the problem is when you do, you end up looking at trash like Calvert-Lewin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 19 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: Live a little, throw Big Willie on. How bad can he be. Seeing him in training and vid clips the lad doesn’t lack self confidence. That a Bruce quote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 14 hours ago, hakka said: Actually that definitely would - but even we are lucky to even be in that position because of our owners. Majority in the league don't have an owner ready to throw few billion at a new stadium just to get about 10% more close revenue wise to the cartel cunts. I'm not even sure ours will at this point. I think if they thought they could spend their way to trophies, they would chuck whatever was needed at it. But invest in a new stadium just to finish 6th? If it makes sense from a financial POV maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 43 minutes ago, TRon said: I'm not even sure ours will at this point. I think if they thought they could spend their way to trophies, they would chuck whatever was needed at it. But invest in a new stadium just to finish 6th? If it makes sense from a financial POV maybe. Never really thought they were too concerned about the financial side of things. Not sure they bought us to earn money from it. I think the price of a new stadium is peanuts to them, as crazy as it is. Edited 10 hours ago by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago On 01/12/2024 at 16:10, TRon said: Did you see our bench yesterday? There was over £100m worth of talent sat there. I know we don't have Chelsea levels of reserves, but there's enough players to switch things around, I don't think we can use lack of options for looking stale. I think that's a very optimistic view of the state of our bench. Barnes is potentially a game changer, though very hit and miss. Trippier and Wilson can offer something different, but they're past their best. The rest are pretty ordinary, by Premiership standards. There's a chasm rather than a gap between the quality of our bench and that of the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal - even Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Cronky said: I think that's a very optimistic view of the state of our bench. Barnes is potentially a game changer, though very hit and miss. Trippier and Wilson can offer something different, but they're past their best. The rest are pretty ordinary, by Premiership standards. There's a chasm rather than a gap between the quality of our bench and that of the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal - even Man U. Which is by design. Only 6 clubs are allowed to have a wage and transfer budget that can sustain a squad to be competitive in the CL and PL. Imagine Villa could keep Diaby and Luiz but still sign the players they did like Onana. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Cronky said: I think that's a very optimistic view of the state of our bench. Barnes is potentially a game changer, though very hit and miss. Trippier and Wilson can offer something different, but they're past their best. The rest are pretty ordinary, by Premiership standards. There's a chasm rather than a gap between the quality of our bench and that of the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal - even Man U. That would fly if we were playing Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City or Arsenal. But we weren't we were playing Crystal Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Does Havertz not count? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEToon Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Cronky said: I think that's a very optimistic view of the state of our bench. Barnes is potentially a game changer, though very hit and miss. Trippier and Wilson can offer something different, but they're past their best. The rest are pretty ordinary, by Premiership standards. There's a chasm rather than a gap between the quality of our bench and that of the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal - even Man U. There is, and to tie in to what is being spoken about slightly. Even Palace who aren't a spending super power by any means had an "EPL forward" on the bench who they could throw on who will end up costing them 30 million Our spend has allowed us to catch up to a lot teams, over take a few but still left a limit on us, that isn't to say our squad is poor by any means, but it isn't some kind of wrecking ball squad, a lot of sides in the league can bring a lot of players off the bench who cost a lot of money, it's not that exclusive an asset to us Edited 7 hours ago by JEToon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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