Maggies Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 At the start of the season it felt like the beginning of the end. Think we’re now in a position where it’s nearing end of the end. He’s just got too many flaws and don’t think we have time for him to learn on the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 6 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Eh? When have I done that? Every time someone is critical of Eddie or the direction of the club to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 1 minute ago, Whitley mag said: Not going to be great for PSR if we have to give Eddie a big lumper, but think that time is coming, the league position is simply unacceptable considering the money we’ve spent and players he has available. Fair comment re availability but re the bit in bold; we spent fuck all this year which totally undermines earlier investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Looks totally bereft by the end of his post-match interview, like: https://www.newcastleunited.com/en/video/729214. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 3 minutes ago, Rich said: Looks totally bereft by the end of his post-match interview, like: https://www.newcastleunited.com/en/video/729214. Yikes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahnSahf Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Feel sorry for Eddie. After so much promise it probably feels as though its all slipping away from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 I'd probably keep him until the end of the season (unless we're in a relegation fight), but I wouldn't be allowing him any say on transfers. I'd also be moving on some of his favourites who he has far too much faith in. It's totally undermining his postion, and probably kinder to sack him, but I'd be hoping he sees the limitations in himself and the new players show him something different. If he doesn't, then he's not the right man and the summer we part ways. Whatever happens, he doesn't get to oversee a 3rd season of shite. He's now been either average or below for as long as he's been brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 I think sadly he’s running out of or run out of ideas. There are other factors involved and I worry how much a new manager is going to be able to do with PSR restrictions but some fresh ideas and a bit of a reboot is probably on its way at some point this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Wonder if he's experiencing burnout.. It happened at Bournemouth. Wouldn't be surprised if we lost to Leicester with their new manager bounce, that might be the end tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Just now, Dokko said: I'd probably keep him until the end of the season (unless we're in a relegation fight), but I wouldn't be allowing him any say on transfers. I'd also be moving on some of his favourites who he has far too much faith in. It's totally undermining his postion, and probably kinder to sack him, but I'd be hoping he sees the limitations in himself and the new players show him something different. If he doesn't, then he's not the right man and the summer we part ways. Whatever happens, he doesn't get to oversee a 3rd season of shite. He's now been either average or below for as long as he's been brilliant. Yeah I think he’ll get the season and they’ll source a new manager properly rather than someone earlier e.g next month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Just now, ExiledGeordie said: Yeah I think he’ll get the season and they’ll source a new manager properly rather than someone earlier e.g next month Wonder who would be on the realistic shortlist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 8 minutes ago, Rich said: Looks totally bereft by the end of his post-match interview, like: https://www.newcastleunited.com/en/video/729214. For those of us that want Howe to stay that's very worrying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Yeah I feel for him. Top guy, but the Second half performances against WH, Palace and today suggest he’s incapable of fixing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Beren said: Wonder who would be on the realistic shortlist. It's a risk either way. Nomatter when you sack a manager, and nomatter who's available. Sometimes the big names fail, sometimes the unknowns are successful. It would be a test of whoever is in charge of the appointment more than anything imo. Edited December 7 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Fair comment re availability but re the bit in bold; we spent fuck all this year which totally undermines earlier investment. Not spending certainly wasn’t ideal and we’ve certainly gone stale, but think the regression in performances and results is way beyond the sum of our parts. He’s just not getting the best out of individuals and tactically hasn’t been at it for the majority of the season, his interviews are even starting to sound worrying the last few weeks. Edited December 7 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 2 minutes ago, Beren said: Wonder who would be on the realistic shortlist. Frank Iroala Poch Hoeness Complete guess of course and not sure if any are really upgrades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Frank Iroala Poch Hoeness Complete guess of course and not sure if any are really upgrades. Of those I think Poch is the safest pair of hands, plus he's mates with Mitchell. Wor chairman will just chuck a few quid Trumps way to have him released from his US contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 PSR is probably going to force us into a rebuild into the summer, isn't it? I'd be making any decision on the head coach with that in mind. Howe either does enough in the second half of the season to earn the right to create a new version of the team, or we get our ducks in a row to make the change as soon as the curtain falls. If it was me making the decision, I'd probably twist now to try and spark us in a league that's there for the taking from 5th down, but I think that's extremely unlikely and I appreciate it would be incredibly harsh. I'd like us to find a playing style that isn't so reliant on the high press and that affords us some level of control without our lads having to run themselves into the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Few random thoughts I backed Eddie from day 1, still do. I still think he'll get us out of this. I'm an optimist I suppose. However, that all depends on the players being up for it and still buying in, and only they know if that is the case. This job may have got the best out of him, like all the others before him. He's a streaky manager. I thought when we beat Chelsea and Arsenal a month back, that was the corner turned and we'd go on a run. It's not happening. I don't know why and I get the feeling he doesn't know either. How much of the chopping and changing the side is down to Bunce? I honestly think that historically to my mind, EH rarely changes the side and we have relied on momentum so much in the past, makes me think there are other forces at work. We don't want a repeat of last season injury-wise but I can't see how we couldn't have remained largely unchanged today. We can't seem to get that momentum and changing the side like today just doesn't ever seem to work, or rarely. I don't think a change will be made until the summer. I doubt our owners are as reactive and emotional as the average supporter. That said, this season has been a mess. I honestly thought we'd make a run at top 3. No Europe to add games, fit squad etc. I feel daft, we're nowhere near that level. We can be on our day, we always give the top 6 a game which makes today galling and frustrating. Dunno. Frustrated, disappointed, mostly in the players, some of it is Eddie and his stubborn and reactive style. Still love the bloke, hope he turns it around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Thomas Franks Brentford top scorers with 31 goals,he's done an incredible job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 For anyone who still believes Howe can/will turn it around, what makes you confident in that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 1 minute ago, vic said: Thomas Franks Brentford top scorers with 31 goals,he's done an incredible job. Their away form is the worse than ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Just now, SUPERTOON said: For anyone who still believes Howe can/will turn it around, what makes you confident in that ? Probably the way we play against the top sides Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Yeah I feel for him. Top guy, but the Second half performances against WH, Palace and today suggest he’s incapable of fixing it. Biggest concern was that today was such a similar setup and approach as the West Ham game, and things played out in a really similar fashion. Seems there was a failure to recognise the issues that existed with how we approached that game. It's very very surprising, and pretty disappointing really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 If i was forced at gunpoint to pick whether to back or sack? This would be the last time I'd still answer "back" after a disappointing result. Needs to figure out a way to win the next 8 straight and move past this absolute clownturd of a run we're on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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