Eddie Howe

[Danh1]

2 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

This.

Eddie stopped us getting relegated to the Championship and got us to 4th.

Keegan stopped us getting relegated to L1 (And likely folding) and got us 2nd in the Prem, and within a whisker of a title.

 

And by god did we play some amazing stuff under him. I love Eddie, and there's no present manager I'd rather have in the here and now to take us forward. But Keegan is still number 1 for me.

Keegan 

Howe

Robson 

 

If Howe wins us a trophy then he will be number one for me. That’s what it’s all about. 

[Yorkie]

There is no Robson or Howe without Keegan. I think that's the kicker. It'll always be KK.

[Danh1]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

There is no Robson or Howe without Keegan. I think that's the kicker. It'll always be KK.

Aye, cannot argue. Just feel as though a trophy would give Howe the edge.

 

Who cares though? Been lucky enough to have these 3 people associated with the club.

[Chris_R]

4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

There is no Robson or Howe without Keegan. I think that's the kicker. It'll always be KK.

 

Without Keegan, there genuinely might not be a Newcastle United.

[Kid Icarus]

Keegan defined what Newcastle's way of playing is and he did that because he knew the fanbase incredibly well. One of the best compliments you can pay Howe is that he's as near as I've ever seen to us playing in that way since Keegan, the comparisons are easily to see.

[Kanj]

Don’t make it about anyone else? Keegan and Sir Bob were legendary managers and their time with us will be all time. I’d rather just say, 3.5 seasons under Eddie and he deserves to be in their grouping of all timers. 

[TheBrownBottle]

Given the way the team is playing and performing the questions were absolutely reasonable - there was an awful lot about how mediocre the squad was and Howe was doing well to have it challenging top 7/8.  Personally, I felt we had a really strong starting XI and a decent bench, and should have been playing and performing much better.  Howe’s an excellent coach, was never in any doubt re that, and I never joined in the calls for his time to be up - but just as he deserves every bit of praise lavished on him at the moment, he also deserved some of the criticism for early season performances.  It’s a wide open league at the moment, and if we’d got our shit together a month earlier we might have a very different trophy being talked about this season. 

[TheBrownBottle]

Re KK / BR / EH, Keegan and Howe sit above Robson for me.  Howe can’t outstrip Keegan emotionally by winning trophies, because ultimately KK saved the club and rebuilt it - though I suspect Howe is a better football manager.  If Howe wins a trophy, he should have a bronze statue outside the ground - even if he’s followed by men who win far more, breaking that trophy duck would be the biggest one of all - but Keegan should have a stand named after him.  That’s the difference for me. 

[Astroblack]

On 30/11/2024 at 12:26, Astroblack said:

Not even questioning Eddie, don’t even come into this thread. 
 

Prem’s just very competitive at the moment and in any other season, say, game week 13 of the 98/99 season, a team would be 7th with a points total of 19. 
 

Our upcoming two months of fixtures look promising and maybe a five game win streak could shoot you up the league, which I do think this team of capable of. 
 

Whoever said, Mourinho, no. That would send up club into a tailspin. We have to look at the long term project. Eddie’s our guy and we’re supporting him all the way. 

 

Predicted it in November when everyone was losing their mind because we didn't have a shot on target against Palace. 

 

 

Edited 18 hours ago by Astroblack

[Collage]

7 hours ago, Nobody said:

In what metric, other than nostalgia, is SBR a better Newcastle manager than Howe? 

Results. See my answer to KI.

[La Parka]

Soz Eddie lad. I lost faith. Please forgive me. 

[Sima]

Aye, I’ll hold my hands up as well.

Bloke is doing an incredible job.

[cubaricho]

Fair play for admitting it, truly. It’s just so wild to me that so many of y’all got there. We’re United aren’t we? It’s supposed to be us against everyone.

[OCOCOL]

5 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Re KK / BR / EH, Keegan and Howe sit above Robson for me.  Howe can’t outstrip Keegan emotionally by winning trophies, because ultimately KK saved the club and rebuilt it - though I suspect Howe is a better football manager.  If Howe wins a trophy, he should have a bronze statue outside the ground - even if he’s followed by men who win far more, breaking that trophy duck would be the biggest one of all - but Keegan should have a stand named after him.  That’s the difference for me. 

and Joe Harvey . I loved SBR but it’s criminal there’s no stand named after KK

[PauloGeordio]

2 minutes ago, OCOCOL said:

and Joe Harvey . I loved SBR but it’s criminal there’s no stand named after KK

That’ll be put right with the new stadium! 

[Mazzy]

1 minute ago, OCOCOL said:

and Joe Harvey . I loved SBR but it’s criminal there’s no stand named after KK

 

New stadium = New stand names.

 

I could see stands being renamed if a renovation/rebuilding was done also.

[Groundhog63]

6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Re KK / BR / EH, Keegan and Howe sit above Robson for me.  Howe can’t outstrip Keegan emotionally by winning trophies, because ultimately KK saved the club and rebuilt it - though I suspect Howe is a better football manager.  If Howe wins a trophy, he should have a bronze statue outside the ground - even if he’s followed by men who win far more, breaking that trophy duck would be the biggest one of all - but Keegan should have a stand named after him.  That’s the difference for me. 

Worth adding Keegan's, undoubted, legacy is fermented by his short but brilliant time here as a player as well. 

I think Howe is the better manager but KK still has my heart. 

[Cf]

6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Re KK / BR / EH, Keegan and Howe sit above Robson for me.  Howe can’t outstrip Keegan emotionally by winning trophies, because ultimately KK saved the club and rebuilt it - though I suspect Howe is a better football manager.  If Howe wins a trophy, he should have a bronze statue outside the ground - even if he’s followed by men who win far more, breaking that trophy duck would be the biggest one of all - but Keegan should have a stand named after him.  That’s the difference for me. 

 

I know it doesn't score him points with us but in football terms EH has also done this with Bournemouth just to further big up his achievements. 

 

I credit Rafa with this for us too, perhaps in a slightly more low key fashion. Sticking with us in the Championship, and then managing to establish us in the Prem again, ultimately leading to the takeover. Bruce so nearly undid the good work. Life is full of ifs and buts but there's a good chance we aren't where we are today without Rafa. 

[Vedder]

Leaving KK out of the equation for now, I personally don’t see Howe above SBR yet. 
 

Both took over struggling teams but SBR took us to 3rd/4th/5th positions in the league, through a Champions League group, semi final of UEFA cup. Played great football during this time too with some of the most memorable nights in my time supporting us. Also, like Keegan, this was more than a job for him, he totally loved the club to his core.
 

Eddie given time will hopefully eclipse all this but if he left us tomorrow I don’t think he’d have done enough. 

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Vedder

[Alberto2005]

4 minutes ago, Vedder said:

Leaving KK out of the equation for now, I personally don’t see Howe above SBR yet. 
 

Both took over struggling teams but SBR took us to 3rd/4th/5th positions in the league, through a Champions League group, semi final of UEFA cup. Played great football during this time too with some of the most memorable nights in my time supporting us. Also, like Keegan, this was more than a job for him, he totally loved the club to his core.
 

Eddie given time will hopefully eclipse all this but if he left us tomorrow I don’t think he’d have done enough. 

 

 

 

We didn't get to a UEFA semi under SBR iirc.

 

Oh yeah Marseille, remember now.

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Alberto2005

[Gaztoon]

No Rafa probably no promotion, and definitely no takeover.. just a club In the champs with Ashley.

[Collage]

46 minutes ago, Vedder said:

Leaving KK out of the equation for now, I personally don’t see Howe above SBR yet. 
 

Both took over struggling teams but SBR took us to 3rd/4th/5th positions in the league, through a Champions League group, semi final of UEFA cup. Played great football during this time too with some of the most memorable nights in my time supporting us. Also, like Keegan, this was more than a job for him, he totally loved the club to his core.
 

Eddie given time will hopefully eclipse all this but if he left us tomorrow I don’t think he’d have done enough. 

 

 

 

This. People tend to forget that we were shite when SBR took over as well. He transformed the club, although not as much as KK or Eddie.

[PauloGeordio]

6 minutes ago, Collage said:

This. People tend to forget that we were shite when SBR took over as well. He transformed the club, although not as much as KK or Eddie.

All 3 are transformers of varying degrees.

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by PauloGeordio

[54]

It's probably been mentioned, but 9 wins in a row is absolutely mental, like fucking bonkers, and it equals our club record, with the previous two being under Rafa in the Championship, and under Keegan which spanned two seasons. Its even more extraordinary when you consider we've been away to Man United, Tottenham and Arsenal in that stretch, as well as played Villa. Feels like a fever dream   

[Cronky]

Keegan, in partnership with Sir John Hall, changed the whole thinking and ambition of the club. I don't think we'll ever go back to a pre-Keegan phase, so he will always have a special and pivotal place in the club's history.

 

I think the factor that's not been aired so far is that in his era, we were outspending every club except Man United. Every time the momentum stalled (even in the Championship), the club would go out into the transfer market. And I have to say it - when the money ran out, he left.

 

Sir Bob and Eddie both over-achieved on limited resources. All subjective of course, but I think Eddie's situation at the start was far worse. We looked like going down with about 20 points, and I couldn't see any way of getting out of trouble, no matter who was in charge and how much money could realistically be spent. 

 

What stands out for me is the way he gets good performances out of ordinary players. He has improved every player that he's managed at our club. I think they are all playing the best football of their careers, and our team is so much better than the sum of its parts. 

 

The man is the complete package.