t00nt00n313 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 13 minutes ago, Skeletor said: I don't really care what anyone says but if he wins the League Cup he's our G.O.A.T I've lived my whole life resigned to the fact we would never win anything and this year is the most I've ever believed it can happen. Just in terms of managers within my time I'd say Bobby Robson would remain the GOAT at least for me, then followed by howe and then Keegan (special shout out to benitez as well but not too 3) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Keegan pretty much built the club. He deserves far more respect than I’ve seen here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Keegan pretty much built the club. He deserves far more respect than I’ve seen here. Does Eddie deserve more respect than you've seen here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Deserves a tonne, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 57 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Keegan pretty much built the club. He deserves far more respect than I’ve seen here. This. Eddie stopped us getting relegated to the Championship and got us to 4th. Keegan stopped us getting relegated to L1 (And likely folding) and got us 2nd in the Prem, and within a whisker of a title. And by god did we play some amazing stuff under him. I love Eddie, and there's no present manager I'd rather have in the here and now to take us forward. But Keegan is still number 1 for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Chris_R said: This. Eddie stopped us getting relegated to the Championship and got us to 4th. Keegan stopped us getting relegated to L1 (And likely folding) and got us 2nd in the Prem, and within a whisker of a title. And by god did we play some amazing stuff under him. I love Eddie, and there's no present manager I'd rather have in the here and now to take us forward. But Keegan is still number 1 for me. Keegan Howe Robson If Howe wins us a trophy then he will be number one for me. That’s what it’s all about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 There is no Robson or Howe without Keegan. I think that's the kicker. It'll always be KK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: There is no Robson or Howe without Keegan. I think that's the kicker. It'll always be KK. Aye, cannot argue. Just feel as though a trophy would give Howe the edge. Who cares though? Been lucky enough to have these 3 people associated with the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: There is no Robson or Howe without Keegan. I think that's the kicker. It'll always be KK. Without Keegan, there genuinely might not be a Newcastle United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Keegan defined what Newcastle's way of playing is and he did that because he knew the fanbase incredibly well. One of the best compliments you can pay Howe is that he's as near as I've ever seen to us playing in that way since Keegan, the comparisons are easily to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Don’t make it about anyone else? Keegan and Sir Bob were legendary managers and their time with us will be all time. I’d rather just say, 3.5 seasons under Eddie and he deserves to be in their grouping of all timers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Given the way the team is playing and performing the questions were absolutely reasonable - there was an awful lot about how mediocre the squad was and Howe was doing well to have it challenging top 7/8. Personally, I felt we had a really strong starting XI and a decent bench, and should have been playing and performing much better. Howe’s an excellent coach, was never in any doubt re that, and I never joined in the calls for his time to be up - but just as he deserves every bit of praise lavished on him at the moment, he also deserved some of the criticism for early season performances. It’s a wide open league at the moment, and if we’d got our shit together a month earlier we might have a very different trophy being talked about this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Re KK / BR / EH, Keegan and Howe sit above Robson for me. Howe can’t outstrip Keegan emotionally by winning trophies, because ultimately KK saved the club and rebuilt it - though I suspect Howe is a better football manager. If Howe wins a trophy, he should have a bronze statue outside the ground - even if he’s followed by men who win far more, breaking that trophy duck would be the biggest one of all - but Keegan should have a stand named after him. That’s the difference for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) On 30/11/2024 at 12:26, Astroblack said: Not even questioning Eddie, don’t even come into this thread. Prem’s just very competitive at the moment and in any other season, say, game week 13 of the 98/99 season, a team would be 7th with a points total of 19. Our upcoming two months of fixtures look promising and maybe a five game win streak could shoot you up the league, which I do think this team of capable of. Whoever said, Mourinho, no. That would send up club into a tailspin. We have to look at the long term project. Eddie’s our guy and we’re supporting him all the way. Predicted it in November when everyone was losing their mind because we didn't have a shot on target against Palace. Edited January 16 by Astroblack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 7 hours ago, Nobody said: In what metric, other than nostalgia, is SBR a better Newcastle manager than Howe? Results. See my answer to KI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Soz Eddie lad. I lost faith. Please forgive me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Aye, I’ll hold my hands up as well. Bloke is doing an incredible job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Fair play for admitting it, truly. It’s just so wild to me that so many of y’all got there. We’re United aren’t we? It’s supposed to be us against everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Re KK / BR / EH, Keegan and Howe sit above Robson for me. Howe can’t outstrip Keegan emotionally by winning trophies, because ultimately KK saved the club and rebuilt it - though I suspect Howe is a better football manager. If Howe wins a trophy, he should have a bronze statue outside the ground - even if he’s followed by men who win far more, breaking that trophy duck would be the biggest one of all - but Keegan should have a stand named after him. That’s the difference for me. and Joe Harvey . I loved SBR but it’s criminal there’s no stand named after KK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, OCOCOL said: and Joe Harvey . I loved SBR but it’s criminal there’s no stand named after KK That’ll be put right with the new stadium! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, OCOCOL said: and Joe Harvey . I loved SBR but it’s criminal there’s no stand named after KK New stadium = New stand names. I could see stands being renamed if a renovation/rebuilding was done also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Re KK / BR / EH, Keegan and Howe sit above Robson for me. Howe can’t outstrip Keegan emotionally by winning trophies, because ultimately KK saved the club and rebuilt it - though I suspect Howe is a better football manager. If Howe wins a trophy, he should have a bronze statue outside the ground - even if he’s followed by men who win far more, breaking that trophy duck would be the biggest one of all - but Keegan should have a stand named after him. That’s the difference for me. Worth adding Keegan's, undoubted, legacy is fermented by his short but brilliant time here as a player as well. I think Howe is the better manager but KK still has my heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Re KK / BR / EH, Keegan and Howe sit above Robson for me. Howe can’t outstrip Keegan emotionally by winning trophies, because ultimately KK saved the club and rebuilt it - though I suspect Howe is a better football manager. If Howe wins a trophy, he should have a bronze statue outside the ground - even if he’s followed by men who win far more, breaking that trophy duck would be the biggest one of all - but Keegan should have a stand named after him. That’s the difference for me. I know it doesn't score him points with us but in football terms EH has also done this with Bournemouth just to further big up his achievements. I credit Rafa with this for us too, perhaps in a slightly more low key fashion. Sticking with us in the Championship, and then managing to establish us in the Prem again, ultimately leading to the takeover. Bruce so nearly undid the good work. Life is full of ifs and buts but there's a good chance we aren't where we are today without Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) Leaving KK out of the equation for now, I personally don’t see Howe above SBR yet. Both took over struggling teams but SBR took us to 3rd/4th/5th positions in the league, through a Champions League group, semi final of UEFA cup. Played great football during this time too with some of the most memorable nights in my time supporting us. Also, like Keegan, this was more than a job for him, he totally loved the club to his core. Eddie given time will hopefully eclipse all this but if he left us tomorrow I don’t think he’d have done enough. Edited January 16 by Vedder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Vedder said: Leaving KK out of the equation for now, I personally don’t see Howe above SBR yet. Both took over struggling teams but SBR took us to 3rd/4th/5th positions in the league, through a Champions League group, semi final of UEFA cup. Played great football during this time too with some of the most memorable nights in my time supporting us. Also, like Keegan, this was more than a job for him, he totally loved the club to his core. Eddie given time will hopefully eclipse all this but if he left us tomorrow I don’t think he’d have done enough. We didn't get to a UEFA semi under SBR iirc. Oh yeah Marseille, remember now. Edited January 16 by Alberto2005 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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