Eddie Howe

[The Prophet]

Good to see we're going full circle.

[Heron]

11 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It started before Mitchell made those comments, when the players were in a training camp in Germany and Howe was being linked with the England job.

 

It strikes me as the mildest of criticisms to suggest that Howe - being head of the transfer committee - might just have some responsibility for who is targeted and signing those players.  If we'd signed them, would everyone be saying 'great, we've signed Pedro, Ekitike and Trafford - but Howe should be given zero credit for that, that's down to others'?

 

If they signed my first choices they'd have a shot at the title, that doesn't mean signing those players would be realistic or viable.

I don't think many would say anything other than that they were good signings. Who made them wouldn't matter. The fact people are pointing out Howe's good signings is more down to the fact they feel the need to defend him, based on opposing speculation, to my mind.

 

I couldn't care a shite who makes our good signings if they're working and the system is working.

 

I don't mind criticisms of Howe or anyone for that matter I'm just struggling to see the validity of the basis for it that's all.

 

I think I just need to agree to disagree

 

 

Edited July 30, 2025 by Heron

[Conjo]

21 minutes ago, Heron said:

Two players who weren't getting in our first 11. Chelsea & Man City also buy or bring in young players and sell them for a decent amount, just to name two sides. It's not that much of a fucked model. Brighton have done that incredibly to enable them to be a sustained top 10 side (or there abouts).

 

None of those clubs transfer policies are even remotely comparable to our first few transfer windows until psr caught up with us. Genuinely baffles me that you can entertain the idea that we could have gone on like that.

 

Yeah we could have sold the womens team or some property (if the club owns anything?) to cook the books and scrape by for a season or two, but its very short sighted.

[Ben]

14 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It started before Mitchell made those comments, when the players were in a training camp in Germany and Howe was being linked with the England job.

 

It strikes me as the mildest of criticisms to suggest that Howe - being head of the transfer committee - might just have some responsibility for who is targeted and signing those players.  If we'd signed them, would everyone be saying 'great, we've signed Pedro, Ekitike and Trafford - but Howe should be given zero credit for that, that's down to others'?

 

If they signed my first choices they'd have a shot at the title, that doesn't mean signing those players would be realistic or viable.

 

I think Howe chose them because they were realistic and viable, PIF and the Reubens let him down 

[TheBrownBottle]

9 minutes ago, Heron said:

I don't think many would say anything other than that they were good signings. Who made them wouldn't matter. The fact people are pointing out Howe's good signings is more down to the fact they feel the need to defend him, based on opposing speculation, to my mind.

 

I couldn't care a shite who makes our good signings if they're working and the system is working.

 

I don't mind criticisms of Howe or anyone for that matter I'm just struggling to see the validity of the basis for it that's all.

 

I think I just need to agree to disagree

 

 

 

👍 all good mate  

[Heron]

10 minutes ago, Conjo said:

 

None of those clubs transfer policies are even remotely comparable to our first few transfer windows until psr caught up with us. Genuinely baffles me that you can entertain the idea that we could have gone on like that.

 

Yeah we could have sold the womens team or some property (if the club owns anything?) to cook the books and scrape by for a season or two, but its very short sighted.

We did what we had to, to quickly bridge a gap and it worked. The evidence is there. We won a cup and got the CL twice and haven't failed FFP yet? So it actually baffles me that you think we've somehow failed in our transfer policy. Transfers are a changing landscape and even moreso for Newcastle, the world's richest football club that cannot spend it's own owners money. We wouldn't have achieved the CL twice or indeed the cup win without doing what we've done.

 

Now we have CL football the opportunity is there to invest, you'd think, or at least enough to maintain European football at some level and to slowly consolidate ourselves as a top 7 side that then grows (ideally).  It's improved our 'trendiness' and subsequent TV revenue, matchday revenue and merchandise sales by simply being a good, entertaining side.

 

I'm not saying it is the right and only model, only that it was a means to an end and a one that has propelled us forward, so open, public criticism of it from Mitchell, a new employee in a new business was just a bit naive and stupid, in my opinion.

 

 

Edited July 30, 2025 by Heron

[Palestoon]

I don't think anyone's really to blame here, except maybe the ownership for not being decisive. 

 

Remember when Howe first showed up their was a huge vacuum in terms of leadership at the club. Howe had to step in with Staveley and wear several hats. Thing was, they took the club from relegation certs to champions league finish in a year and half. It wasn't really planned for the club to be structured that way, but who could argue that how they operated wasn't working? And why would Howe feel the need to cede any decision making to anyone else?

 

This probably was the reason ashworth, and then Mitchell didn't last. They come from more continental style set up, and probably found it hard to do their job in the way they were used to. And Howe had so much credit in the bank, along with his relationship to staveley, that any DOF would have to take a secondary role. Hence both of them leaving.

 

All probably believed they were doing what was in the best interest of the club. But until the ownership makes it clear what the structure of the clubs hierarchy is, we'll continue to have this issue. 

 

I personally don't have a problem either way, I just want the club to committ to a vision and stick to that set up and ensure it's working optimally 

 

 

[Wilson]

Poor cunt. 

 

I'll be honored to watch him....... 

 

 

[TRon]

12 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I don’t think anyone is - he is a tit.  And so is Ashworth.  But the point is that Howe chased the men who were appointed to sort this shit out for him; and now it’s on him and his nephew to negotiate.  So far they’re not exactly doing a bang-up job. 

 

This is the thing, no one is defending Mitchell, the bloke was evidently unlikeable, but he was given a remit and tried to work within that. He was probably the wrong man, and tbh, Eales who brought him in was probably the wrong choice as well. But they were made in good faith, and the process was the right way to go. 

 

My point was that you can't keep blaming lack of support for Howe when he's pretty much been backed above everyone. He's a great coach but it's not really his job to be picking the CEO or DOF. If he's doing it, that's because he HAS been backed, not the opposite. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

Honestly think this guy is going to use this shit to get the players in siege mentality mode. Going to remind us what a brilliant guy we have in charge.

[Geogaddi]

Genuinely worried Eddie will be off in the next year or so , he deserves so much batter than this shitshow we have going on at the minute .

[gbandit]

Just now, Geogaddi said:

Genuinely worried Eddie will be off in the next year or so , he deserves so much batter than this shitshow we have going on at the minute .

[Ben]

1 minute ago, Geogaddi said:

Genuinely worried Eddie will be off in the next year or so , he deserves so much batter than this shitshow we have going on at the minute .

 

Oh dear, you not got any bins to look in ?

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, Geogaddi said:

Genuinely worried Eddie will be off in the next year or so , he deserves so much batter than this shitshow we have going on at the minute .

 

If he was going, I doubt we'd be trying to get Wilson in.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, Geogaddi said:

Genuinely worried Eddie will be off in the next year or so , he deserves so much batter than this shitshow we have going on at the minute .

If the mess we have now continues for another year then we’ll have many more problems than just who the manager is. Have to think that the new executive appointments will turn it around, and/or this window has shocked Yasir into doing something decisive. 

[Conjo]

On 31/07/2025 at 00:24, Heron said:

We did what we had to, to quickly bridge a gap and it worked. The evidence is there. We won a cup and got the CL twice and haven't failed FFP yet? So it actually baffles me that you think we've somehow failed in our transfer policy.

 

 

I haven't said we've failed in our transfer policy, I'm saying it isn't sustainable to continue like we did, and as you can see from the last few windows it wasn't.

 

Of course buying whomever you want to bridge the gap works

[Colos Short and Curlies]

1 minute ago, Conjo said:

 

I haven't said we've failed in our transfer policy, I'm saying it isn't sustainable to continue like we did, and as you can see from the last few windows it wasn't.

 

Of course buying whomever you want to bridge the gap works

 

There's a key point here, our policy worked for the first 3 seasons but the policy was to buy.

We had headroom and nobody to sell so the remit was as straightforward as a transfer policy gets. There is no doubt that a combination of Howe, Stavely and crew ran this almost to perfection.

 

Our whole transfer policy changed last summer, or the January before really, where selling became an important part of the policy.

 

We've now got a fully dynamic policy where we have valuable assets, are buying young developmental hopes and need to balance new signings, sales and a budget for the first time under PIF. We could really do with a DoF right now as that is too bog for Howe to manage alongside training etc.

[Famous Nick]

I already see he is coming down the stairs of the plane back in England on Monday from the Asia tour, asks Tindall to take care of his bags because he has a journey to make and one hour later he is staring down Yasir at a golf club from behind a bush.

 

 

[Decky]

If Isak stays this man will do his best damage control to help him back into the fold. And the slimey cunt Isak doesn't deserve it.

[Justdoesit]

4 minutes ago, Decky said:

If Isak stays this man will do his best damage control to help him back into the fold. And the slimey cunt Isak doesn't deserve it.

 

This. He will perform and it will be because Eddie has worked his magic to appease the insufferable c#nt. 

 

I'm not sure I even want him to play for us anymore, I'm that petty. But in the grand scheme, he must stink in the dressing room right now.

 

 

Edited August 1, 2025 by Justdoesit

[RodneyCisse]

Eddie will sort anything needed in the dressing room, if Isak does stay.

[Vinny Green Balls]

13 minutes ago, Decky said:

If Isak stays this man will do his best damage control to help him back into the fold. And the slimey cunt Isak doesn't deserve it.

He will if he apologizes to him and the team and is sincere about it. Isak didn’t kill anyone. He acted like a prick and betrayed trust, but I am of the opinion that there should be a way back if the behavior isn’t repeated, and the person really is contrite. Most of us have the capacity to really betray people. But we also have the capacity to change.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Grudges usually don’t serve us particularly well in my experience.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

He will if he apologizes to him and the team and is sincere about it. Isak didn’t kill anyone. He acted like a prick and betrayed trust, but I am of the opinion that there should be a way back if the behavior isn’t repeated, and the person really is contrite. Most of us have the capacity to really betray people. But we also have the capacity to change.

 

Most of us have also had a group of mates where one has acted like a right prick, fallen out with a number of people but then contritely apologised and was welcomed back in

[andycap]

Why would he leave? He's never been as secure in a job in his life. 

Can bring in who he wants has the owners ear. 

He's happy as a pig in shit. 😂

If he can get a Couple of more experienced staff hired too sort out transfers he's golden.