tarie4 Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 Just now, nufc123 said: My biggest problem is how bad we look in possession. Having burn at left back causes this. We have no ball carriers in our FB positions. Which is essential to how we play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 No one wanted him out after winning our last 3 on the spin? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892er Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 The annoying thing for me is we can't seem to gather momentum. I'll take a shit day like this if it's few and far between but we're seeing a pattern and it's frustrating as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 5 minutes ago, nufc123 said: My biggest problem is how bad we look in possession. Being glass-half-full (or, at least, trying to diagnose it), we're clearly trying to change the way we build attacks this season - that being one of the identifiers of the whole 'team in transition' thing. There's far more short, quick passing in central areas than previous seasons. It's not our only tactic, but the added emphasis on that sort of gameplan points to the shake-up. Hopefully the team will settle in time because, if it doesn't, a 9th-13th place finish probably beckons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 2 minutes ago, Andy84 said: No one wanted him out after winning our last 3 on the spin? Don't think anyone wants him out now either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 2 minutes ago, Andy84 said: No one wanted him out after winning our last 3 on the spin? Anyone want him out now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 We are a one trick pony who wins by dominating games with high energy and have very little ability to control games or break down a low block. That doesn't work when we are playing twice a week. It is what it is, lets try again next year when we don't have Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 (edited) It’s the away showings that I find concerning. Honestly feels like we’ve barely played well away from home in the league since 2022-23. Off the top of my head; 8-0 v Sheffield Utd 23/24 3-1 v Villa 23/24 4-1 v Burnley 23/24 4-0 v Ipswich 24/25 2-0 v Man United 24/25 3-1 v Southampton 24/25 0-0 v Villa 25/26 Surely there’s more but that’s from what I remember. 6 games out of 43 and not exactly the best opposition either. Edited November 2, 2025 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 5 minutes ago, tarie4 said: I don't get why we're always so obsessed with a playmaker. We won all 12 games against the bottom 6 teams, scoring 35 goals. Our real issue is that we stop pushing for more after we score. Murphy gets us ahead, then we just sit back and let them come at us. We've been doing this for two seasons now. We're too passive and back off, and that's because we're overworking our midfield. Ramsey, Willock, and Miley should be playing regularly to keep our energy levels up. Playmakers in the EPL are practically a myth these days. Can you even name one playmaker in the EPL right now who's having a good season or is even remotely decent? I don’t think it’s necessarily a playmaker or 10 as such, but someone with creativity and who can also be a consistent goal threat. Ideally one of our midfielders and both our wingers would fit that but our problem is none of them have those attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milburn Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 2 minutes ago, tarie4 said: Having burn at left back causes this. We have no ball carriers in our FB positions. Which is essential to how we play. Burn is Howe’s first name on the team sheet. Unless he put him back at CB instead of Botman, Burn will continue at LB even when Tino and Hall are back and fully fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 4 minutes ago, tarie4 said: Having burn at left back causes this. We have no ball carriers in our FB positions. Which is essential to how we play. Its a problem, but its not the only one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 8 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: I think that the Information Age has conditioned people for instant gratification and pathological impatience. …something sports fans of course have suffered from way before, but I think it’s been magnified over the last 25 years. Grumbling and complaining about everything post-match in the pub is a tradition which goes back significantly further than the internet - I think much of what is posted on here is very, very mild in comparison to the average post-match pub crack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 3 minutes ago, Andy said: While the general point you're making is fair, there are obviously going to be more bones to chew through after an abject performance like that compared to a routine win, especially when he clearly had an off-day himself with his changes. It’s more the hyperbole I’m seeing. Before today we’d won 5 of the last 6 and moved into a winnable quarter final of a cup. Now there’s genuine venom because we played badly and lost a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 5 minutes ago, Stifler said: I said the same thing. The whole thing about him having total control over transfers is stupid and is just putting us in an impossible position for when he sacks us off for when the likes of Liverpool or Man Utd come along for him. Neither of those are coming in for him. This is the biggest club he will ever manage. I was worried about Man U would come sniffing at one point but I think we are starting to see Eddie hitting his ceiling now tbh. Hate to say it but I think Simon Jordan is probably right about him. He is struggling to deliver when the expectations are sky high, which they always will be at an elite club, or a club that wants to be elite. His teams are all about workrate, motivation and running and less about creativity and technical ability, and when the players dont produce that we see days like today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 31 minutes ago, Pilko said: This has to be the equivalent of Brentford (a) last season as the "low point" because we can't have any more as bad as that. That’s what some of our fans said after Brighton game when they wanted to burrow their heads in the sand. Issues are deep rooted, it will get lower still if things don’t change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 5 minutes ago, Andy84 said: No one wanted him out after winning our last 3 on the spin? Who wants him out? Shouldn’t even be a discussion. How shit we are away from home is perfectly valid though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyBartoon Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 4 away PL wins in 2025. Clearly not good enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 Christ man, this constant "you want him out" after rightfully discussing a shocking result is nauseating. No one in their right mind wants him out, people are just frustrated with the shite being served up and he doesn't look to have the answers to resolve it just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 6 minutes ago, Andy said: Or maybe the performance was just awful, even worse than every other sub-par away performance this season, and it's cause for concern and worthy of debate? Just because there is more discussion after a defeat, doesn't mean people want Howe out. It's obvious there will be more to say in this scenario. Totally agree about today. It was one of the worst performances I’ve seen in the Howe era. Completely inept on all levels. I was responding to another comment about why it does seem to be much more active in here after a loss. But if any defeat deserves knee jerk reactions, this one is up there. But the last paragraph isn’t necessarily true. wyn Davies certainly wants Howe out, and Stifler basically said that Howe plateaued with us. But I’m fine with Stifler’s comment because he should be angry after that performance from manager and players. And I’m sure Howe is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 Just now, Ellis H said: It’s more the hyperbole I’m seeing. Before today we’d won 5 of the last 6 and moved into a winnable quarter final of a cup. Now there’s genuine venom because we played badly and lost a game. I don’t email the council when my bins have been emptied. It’s not that deep. Howe has rock solid support but we’re allowed to question poor performances. Howe normally ‘coaches’ a win but the players, occasionally, let us down but today we were abject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 (edited) Just now, Menace said: Christ man, this constant "you want him out" after rightfully discussing a shocking result is nauseating. Its proper weird. Everytime... Edited November 2, 2025 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 We were clearly tired and West Ham have had a big break, it's games like this we need to show some control on the ball but that's never happening with the line-up we put out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Who wants him out? Shouldn’t even be a discussion. How shit we are away from home is perfectly valid though. Just the one usual suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 Just now, JoeyBartoon said: 4 away PL wins in 2025. Clearly not good enough 3 of them coming against the sides who finished 20th, 18th and 17th last season as well. It’s fucking shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted November 2, 2025 Share Posted November 2, 2025 Most teams in the league can call upon a number 10 it gives you options. We don't have one relying on blood and bluster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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