Eddie Howe

[heero]

2 hours ago, PauloGeordio said:

 

Lovely 😍 

[Ellis H]

“Newcastle have won 48.3% of PL matches under Howe.”

 

Could have just stopped there. 

[HaydnNUFC]

3 minutes ago, Ellis H said:

“Newcastle have won 48.3% of PL matches under Howe.”

 

Could have just stopped there. 

We’ve also won 21.4% of PL away matches in 2025 as we enter November. There’s a problem there that needs addressing but have shown few to no signs in doing so.

 

 

Edited November 3, 2025 by HaydnNUFC

[joeyt]

4 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

He does have that credit in the bank.

 

not sure why everyone is suggesting he doesn’t. 
 

edit: but I’m don’t believe we will go on a similar run just because we did last year

 

 

 

 

You had to preface your message by saying you were not Eddie Out so you must be aware that some people seem to forget about his past achievements with us

[Ben]

Eddie Howe won 100% of League cups in 2025 and 0% when he was Bournemouth manager. 

[MagPar]

You get about 2 million for each win in the Champions league so concentrating on that is essential. I've pretty much accepted an average EPL season, but I'm hopeful we'll go far in the cups. Losing to West Ham who have been total wank was a shocker and it shows that no game should be taken for granted. 

[Kid Icarus]

32 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

Last season we got Champions League and won our first cup in decades after a ropey start

 

It's not sustainable but he should have so much credit in the bank to turn it around

Howe was streaky at Bournemouth and has been here, not sure about sustainability, but I think all signs point towards it being a feature not a bug.

[Ellis H]

12 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

We’ve also won 21.4% of PL away matches in 2025 as we enter November. There’s a problem there that needs addressing but have shown few to no signs in doing so.

 

 

 

Im assuming that’s still more than we were winning before he came here. Despite his incredible job so far, total improvement is gradual.
 

This is also almost certainly the strongest the PL has ever been which is why Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham, Man Utd, Arsenal etc have also been inconsistent, if not hilariously shite in some cases, in the last 12+ months. Liverpool just lost 5 league games in a row as an example. If the teams frequently spending endless amounts of money can’t be consistent then why should Howe be expected to?

[Holmesy]

31 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

You had to preface your message by saying you were not Eddie Out so you must be aware that some people seem to forget about his past achievements with us

Pellegrini and Mancini both won the title for City. They both got replaced and eventually Pep came in, and the rest is history. I'm sure their fans look back fondly on the other two but I can't imagine any of them are too upset with what has happened since.
We can be overly sentimental at times, probably because we've all still got Ashley/Bruce/Carver/Kinnear-PTSD, but this is a new era of NUFC.
I'm not Eddie out at all but there are elements of his management and player recruitment I find frustrating. If he was replaced I would be sad like most, but if the new manager kicked us on even further, i'd quickly move on. 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2025 by Holmesy

[Vinny Green Balls]

4 hours ago, KennyUtd said:

This is all fair enough but thinking fans shouldn't have a moan after such an awful display is just mad. As much as we have things to look forward to there's plenty to worry about. Getting beat is 1 thing. Happens to all teams. Yesterday was another level of shite. Questions should definitely be asked.

One of the most annoying cliche comments in sports, up there with 110%

[joeyt]

I'm not sure comparing us to Pep and Man City is the best argument 

 

Look at all the other big clubs who have chopped and changed managers and not had sustained success. 

 

They're the majority. I'm sure every club in the world would upgrade to the next Pep Guardiola if it was that easy 

[cubaricho]

I’d rather win some and lose some with our athletic/heavy press style of play rather than just win with the boring-ass football Pep has dished up over the years. 
 

When we’re on our game I love the way we play and it’s hella fun to watch. And other teams/fans absolutely hate playing against us. Man City bores you to death, even if they win it all. There’s no emotion there. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

We have the advantage of stable management. Stability for stability's sake can be counterproductive, but in that time, he has also been one of our winningest managers in history. 

 

We have a massive advantage over other teams with that management stability, and it will show once again when he's likely around next season, and a number of other managers have been chopped.

[Vinny Green Balls]

It's like some on here generally calling for massive sub changes at half time if it's not going perfect. Patience is not a feature of the information age.

 

 

Edited November 3, 2025 by Vinny Green Balls

[Vinny Green Balls]

45 minutes ago, Lucky said:

 

Those statistics expose the same pattern as what happened at Bournemouth.. the more we control the ball, the less we control the match.

 

Essentially we’re seeing history repeat itself.

If history does repeat itself, then you'll look like a tit at the end of the season.

[Holmesy]

8 minutes ago, joeyt said:

I'm not sure comparing us to Pep and Man City is the best argument 

 

Look at all the other big clubs who have chopped and changed managers and not had sustained success. 

 

They're the majority. I'm sure every club in the world would upgrade to the next Pep Guardiola if it was that easy 

I knew someone would come back with this . I'm not comparing our own journey to City's, for obvious reasons, but the comment was in direct response to 'some people seem to forget about his past achievements with us (referencing Eddie)'.

We all know what his achievements have been - the man has worked wonders! But there are also things that could be improved - better set pieces, more imaginative player recruitment, more impactful substitutions, forgoing player loyalty for better team balance, more flexible tactically (ie a proper plan B,C and D), a better away gameplan etc.

 

 

[timeEd32]

8 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

But there are also things that could be improved - better set pieces, more imaginative player recruitment, more impactful substitutions, forgoing player loyalty for better team balance, more flexible tactically (ie a proper plan B,C and D), a better away gameplan etc.

 

The odds of a new manager coming in and improving on these things while also maintaining all that is good about Eddie are so astronomically low. You'd be wanting to find someone who can overachieve at a higher rate than the current person is overachieving. 

[Optimistic Nut]

55 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

We’ve also won 21.4% of PL away matches in 2025 as we enter November. There’s a problem there that needs addressing but have shown few to no signs in doing so.

 

 

 

 

Probably need 7 away wins and 13 home wins in a season to compete for 70 points, so that's not a million miles away like. 

[Doctor Zaius]

1 hour ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

 

A very telling stat imo. We struggle against a low block where teams are happy to cede possession, because there's less opportunity to press. 

 

It's been this way for a while and it's a problem he's going to have to fix. Less time on the training ground to fix it. I do think we have the personnel in the squad to mitigate this to a degree though, aside from a right winger.

[Doctor Zaius]

5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Probably need 7 away wins and 13 home wins in a season to compete for 70 points, so that's not a million miles away like. 

 

That's a very big ask given our away form. There's not one team in the league I'd fancy us against away from home aside from Wolves perhaps  

[Heron]

7 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

A very telling stat imo. We struggle against a low block where teams are happy to cede possession, because there's less opportunity to press. 

 

It's been this way for a while and it's a problem he's going to have to fix. Less time on the training ground to fix it. I do think we have the personnel in the squad to mitigate this to a degree though, aside from a right winger.

Even though right wing is where all of our assists come from?

 

I'd argue the left is far less likely to mitigate this than the right.

 

 

Edited November 3, 2025 by Heron

[Lucky]

I asked ChatGPT “what went wrong for Eddie Howe at Bournemouth?”

 

Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth story started as a fairytale but ended in steady decline due to several overlapping factors — tactical, psychological, and structural.

 

At their best, Bournemouth played fearless, expansive football built on quick transitions and brave possession from the back. Howe’s man-management and attention to detail inspired loyalty and overachievement in a small squad with limited resources. But the same strengths became flaws as the Premier League evolved.

 

Tactically, Bournemouth remained too open. Howe’s insistence on building from deep with technically modest defenders often led to costly turnovers, especially once opponents learned to press them high. Their defence was never properly fixed; Bournemouth consistently conceded 60–70 goals a season. Even after major spending, defensive recruits like Ake aside, the balance between risk and control never improved.

 

Recruitment became muddled. Money was spent on players who didn’t suit Howe’s system (such as Solanke, Ibe, and Billing initially), while core players aged or regressed. The team’s energy and intensity — once their hallmark — faded. When injuries hit key leaders like Aké, Lerma, and Wilson, there was no reliable depth.

 

Psychologically, the club lost its edge. Survival became expectation rather than motivation, and Howe, a meticulous but emotionally intense manager, seemed drained by the burden of constant firefighting. By 2019–20, Bournemouth looked tactically stale, predictable in possession, and lacking belief — a shadow of the hungry side that rose from League One.

 

Ultimately, Howe’s downfall at Bournemouth was not a collapse of ability but of adaptation. His philosophy stopped evolving while others adjusted faster, and his loyalty to certain players and methods — admirable early on — became a limitation when the margins tightened.

[Doctor Zaius]

7 minutes ago, Heron said:

Even though right wing is where all of our assists come from?

 

I'd argue the left is far less likely to mitigate this than the right.

 

 

 

 

Reckon Murphy is the key to breaking teams down when they're sat in? I realise he scored at the weekend (on the break) and he's capable of producing, but there's a reason we went big on a right winger in the summer. It's just that he doesn't seem to be the answer either. 

 

Having said that, I'm not particularly convinced that either Barnes or Gordon are consistent enough either.

[The Prophet]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

 

Any particular Bournemouth games that come to mind?

 

9 minutes ago, Lucky said:

I asked ChatGPT “what went wrong for Eddie Howe at Bournemouth?”

 

Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth story started as a fairytale but ended in steady decline due to several overlapping factors — tactical, psychological, and structural.

 

At their best, Bournemouth played fearless, expansive football built on quick transitions and brave possession from the back. Howe’s man-management and attention to detail inspired loyalty and overachievement in a small squad with limited resources. But the same strengths became flaws as the Premier League evolved.

 

Tactically, Bournemouth remained too open. Howe’s insistence on building from deep with technically modest defenders often led to costly turnovers, especially once opponents learned to press them high. Their defence was never properly fixed; Bournemouth consistently conceded 60–70 goals a season. Even after major spending, defensive recruits like Ake aside, the balance between risk and control never improved.

 

Recruitment became muddled. Money was spent on players who didn’t suit Howe’s system (such as Solanke, Ibe, and Billing initially), while core players aged or regressed. The team’s energy and intensity — once their hallmark — faded. When injuries hit key leaders like Aké, Lerma, and Wilson, there was no reliable depth.

 

Psychologically, the club lost its edge. Survival became expectation rather than motivation, and Howe, a meticulous but emotionally intense manager, seemed drained by the burden of constant firefighting. By 2019–20, Bournemouth looked tactically stale, predictable in possession, and lacking belief — a shadow of the hungry side that rose from League One.

 

Ultimately, Howe’s downfall at Bournemouth was not a collapse of ability but of adaptation. His philosophy stopped evolving while others adjusted faster, and his loyalty to certain players and methods — admirable early on — became a limitation when the margins tightened.

 

None then?

[LiquidAK]

9 minutes ago, Lucky said:

I asked ChatGPT “what went wrong for Eddie Howe at Bournemouth?”

 

Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth story started as a fairytale but ended in steady decline due to several overlapping factors — tactical, psychological, and structural.

 

At their best, Bournemouth played fearless, expansive football built on quick transitions and brave possession from the back. Howe’s man-management and attention to detail inspired loyalty and overachievement in a small squad with limited resources. But the same strengths became flaws as the Premier League evolved.

 

Tactically, Bournemouth remained too open. Howe’s insistence on building from deep with technically modest defenders often led to costly turnovers, especially once opponents learned to press them high. Their defence was never properly fixed; Bournemouth consistently conceded 60–70 goals a season. Even after major spending, defensive recruits like Ake aside, the balance between risk and control never improved.

 

Recruitment became muddled. Money was spent on players who didn’t suit Howe’s system (such as Solanke, Ibe, and Billing initially), while core players aged or regressed. The team’s energy and intensity — once their hallmark — faded. When injuries hit key leaders like Aké, Lerma, and Wilson, there was no reliable depth.

 

Psychologically, the club lost its edge. Survival became expectation rather than motivation, and Howe, a meticulous but emotionally intense manager, seemed drained by the burden of constant firefighting. By 2019–20, Bournemouth looked tactically stale, predictable in possession, and lacking belief — a shadow of the hungry side that rose from League One.

 

Ultimately, Howe’s downfall at Bournemouth was not a collapse of ability but of adaptation. His philosophy stopped evolving while others adjusted faster, and his loyalty to certain players and methods — admirable early on — became a limitation when the margins tightened.

David, why are you like this?