Kanj Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marxen the Mag said: Actually none of us are wanting change to his position right now. Just questioning how long he should get and what are the causes of our troubles. And I think it pisses some of us off that some people have unquestionable loyalty to one person almost over the good of the club. I have unquestionable loyalty to the man that has poured every single bit of his being into making Newcastle United the football club something fans near and far wept with joy earlier this year after destroying the eventual PL champions (who we never beat) to lift a trophy that seemed unattainable in our lifetimes become a true reality. A man who gave belief, pride and joy to a fanbase who were once disenchanted with football and forever stuck in an evergreen pile of shit under Ashley and previous cretins as managers and executives. So no, that line of thinking you have is not my speed, sorry pal. Never will be. It’s not blind. Eyes wide open. Patience is absolutely necessary. Edited November 12, 2025 by Kanj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 If things don’t massively improve I can see us only getting another 3-5 points before the end of 2025. We have a tough run of games after the break. Burnley at home is the only one I’m looking at thinking we have a chance there. Maybe Wissa will change the dynamic completely but I just think, where is the service going to come from if the rest of the side doesn’t transform. If we don’t sort it out this could be a likely set of results. City (h) - L Everton (a) - L Spurs (h) - D Burnley (h) - W Mackems (a) - D Chelsea (h) - L Man Utd (a) - L Burnley (a) - L Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 10 minutes ago, Lucky said: If things don’t massively improve I can see us only getting another 3-5 points before the end of 2025. We have a tough run of games after the break. Burnley at home is the only one I’m looking at thinking we have a chance there. Maybe Wissa will change the dynamic completely but I just think, where is the service going to come from if the rest of the side doesn’t transform. If we don’t sort it out this could be a likely set of results. City (h) - L Everton (a) - L Spurs (h) - D Burnley (h) - W Mackems (a) - D Chelsea (h) - L Man Utd (a) - L Burnley (a) - L Your prediction below is insanely negative tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 Fed up of these negative fuckers that only crawl out from under their stones when a downturn comes. "Oh, look how right I am, mmm!" Doom masturbators each and every one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 1 hour ago, Lucky said: If things don’t massively improve I can see us only getting another 3-5 points before the end of 2025. We have a tough run of games after the break. Burnley at home is the only one I’m looking at thinking we have a chance there. Maybe Wissa will change the dynamic completely but I just think, where is the service going to come from if the rest of the side doesn’t transform. If we don’t sort it out this could be a likely set of results. City (h) - L Everton (a) - L Spurs (h) - D Burnley (h) - W Mackems (a) - D Chelsea (h) - L Man Utd (a) - L Burnley (a) - L We comfortably won against Spurs just two weeks ago. Now we don't even have a chance ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 1 hour ago, Pata said: We comfortably won against Spurs just two weeks ago. Now we don't even have a chance ffs. Just our seventh win in our last eight matches against them, but I for one am bricking it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 We're in a hole, away from home has been pretty horrendous not just in the way of results but performances too, is it concerning? Yes, but some people are relentlessly negative, anything for a bit of trauma porn. It's not like this is new to us, we've been here before and we always find a way out. I think this international break came at the right time for the team but the wrong time for supporters, the emotional outpouring of panic has set in with no games to rectify it. City is a rough one to come back to also, but the games after that don't look horrific. We're coming back into the Christmas run-in with some important players back in the squad and Eddie has had 2 weeks to put the belief back into them, I think we go on one of our streaks and some posters will be crawling back into their holes, waiting for the next rough patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 3 hours ago, Lucky said: If things don’t massively improve I can see us only getting another 3-5 points before the end of 2025. We have a tough run of games after the break. Burnley at home is the only one I’m looking at thinking we have a chance there. Maybe Wissa will change the dynamic completely but I just think, where is the service going to come from if the rest of the side doesn’t transform. If we don’t sort it out this could be a likely set of results. City (h) - L Everton (a) - L Spurs (h) - D Burnley (h) - W Mackems (a) - D Chelsea (h) - L Man Utd (a) - L Burnley (a) - L We won’t be that bad, at worse it would be more like: City (h) - L Everton (a) - L Spurs (h) - W Burnley (h) - W Mackems (a) - D Chelsea (h) - D Man Utd (a) - L Burnley (a) - D So 9 points from 8, which 21 points after 19 games would be horrific. We really need it be like: City (h) - W Everton (a) - D Spurs (h) - W Burnley (h) - W Mackems (a) - W Chelsea (h) - W Man Utd (a) - D Burnley (a) - W 20 points from 24 and we’re firmly back in top 6 hunt since its wins against 4 sides above us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 7 hours ago, Marxen the Mag said: It's a trophy that gave me the happiest moment in my life. I'm not downplaying the feeling. As I had it myself. But we would have reacted the same way had it been the Conference League. I give up now. People on here are way more in their own bubble than I thought. No objectivity. And when someone like Lucky or I try to bring it, you all get so defensive that you refuse to see reality. I imagine stuff like that rubs people up the wrong way tbh. Describing your opinion as reality is the exact opposite of being objective, and a bit like 'simple as' and 'end of' that sort of hubris tends to come paired with the biggest load of bollocks opinions you're ever likely to read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 8 hours ago, Marxen the Mag said: To be honest, I am not one to have posted much at all. Like ever. No surprise there, its a running theme with posters like you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 5 hours ago, Kanj said: I have unquestionable loyalty to the man that has poured every single bit of his being into making Newcastle United the football club something fans near and far wept with joy earlier this year after destroying the eventual PL champions (who we never beat) to lift a trophy that seemed unattainable in our lifetimes become a true reality. A man who gave belief, pride and joy to a fanbase who were once disenchanted with football and forever stuck in an evergreen pile of shit under Ashley and previous cretins as managers and executives. So no, that line of thinking you have is not my speed, sorry pal. Never will be. It’s not blind. Eyes wide open. Patience is absolutely necessary. 💯 brother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 4 hours ago, Lucky said: If things don’t massively improve I can see us only getting another 3-5 points before the end of 2025. We have a tough run of games after the break. Burnley at home is the only one I’m looking at thinking we have a chance there. Maybe Wissa will change the dynamic completely but I just think, where is the service going to come from if the rest of the side doesn’t transform. If we don’t sort it out this could be a likely set of results. City (h) - L Everton (a) - L Spurs (h) - D Burnley (h) - W Mackems (a) - D Chelsea (h) - L Man Utd (a) - L Burnley (a) - L Need a change of username It is possible we’ll lose the next 4 TBH, although not ‘likely’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 (edited) Not got much to say to the Howe topic as everything has been well covered. For me he has loads of credit in the bank, transition season, and I think we will come good eventually However, it is interesting to think of what other managers are out there, I'm not sure you can say most shout about (Glasner, Iraola etc) are upgrades on Howe However 1 that I think would be and could be a good idea in 1.5 years time would be Inzaghi, if it turns out we would benefit to a change in management He'd a step up, though I reckon he'd be someone Liverpool go for if they get rid of Slot, or City if Pep goes etc Edited November 12, 2025 by janpawel Spelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: I imagine stuff like that rubs people up the wrong way tbh. Describing your opinion as reality is the exact opposite of being objective, and a bit like 'simple as' and 'end of' that sort of hubris tends to come paired with the biggest load of bollocks opinions you're ever likely to read. ‘Just telling it like it is.’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 Wouldn't be remotely surprising if we play well and get something v City, but follow it up with a below par showing v Everton. There's at least a kernel of truth in the idea that we've been a "big game" side for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: I imagine stuff like that rubs people up the wrong way tbh. Describing your opinion as reality is the exact opposite of being objective, and a bit like 'simple as' and 'end of' that sort of hubris tends to come paired with the biggest load of bollocks opinions you're ever likely to read. 26 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: ‘Just telling it like it is.’ "We can ALL see it" "I'm not the only one that thinks that" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 Certain Eddie is working on us transitioning to a different system. We have to now as our focal point in attack has different strengths entirely. Unfortunately, we’ve also got the issue of a few key players being off form or carrying a knock/injury. So I think we’re stuck in between. We need points now but they’re hard to come by playing the same way as we did last year as Isak’s gone. Can’t evolve into a new way when key players are performing below their standards, i.e. Gordon, Bruno, Elanga, Botman, JL and Livra, Hall and Wissa have been injured. Personally I haven’t been surprised we haven’t seen much of Miley, EH just doesn’t think he’s ready (so far). If he did he’d have played instead of JL in those games JL didn’t do much in. QED tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 7 hours ago, Kanj said: I have unquestionable loyalty to the man that has poured every single bit of his being into making Newcastle United the football club something fans near and far wept with joy earlier this year after destroying the eventual PL champions (who we never beat) to lift a trophy that seemed unattainable in our lifetimes become a true reality. A man who gave belief, pride and joy to a fanbase who were once disenchanted with football and forever stuck in an evergreen pile of shit under Ashley and previous cretins as managers and executives. So no, that line of thinking you have is not my speed, sorry pal. Never will be. It’s not blind. Eyes wide open. Patience is absolutely necessary. Brilliantly put Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 (edited) I look back over Eddie's tenure and I actually think we looked a much better team in the season we finished 7th over last season, and that was with additional games and a nightmare injury list. Some of stuff we played that season was immense, scoring 85 goals. The best example when we beat Man Utd 1-0 at home. We really did look like a top side then, albeit streaky. Last season was a bit all over the shop, Isak's goals and Tonali coming back sparked an incredible run over Christmas followed by an unbelievable cup win. We seem to be losing our edge as time goes. Edited November 12, 2025 by Stuy_O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 6 minutes ago, Stuy_O said: I look back over Eddie's tenure and I actually we looked a much better team in the season we finished 7th over last season, and that was with additional games and a nightmare injury list. Some of stuff we played that season was immense, scoring 85 goals. The best example when we beat Man Utd 1-0 at home. We really did look like a top side then, albeit streaky. Last season was a bit all over the shop, Isak's goals and Tonali coming back sparked an incredible run over Christmas followed by an unbelievable cup win. We seem to be losing our edge as time goes. Agree with you re 23/24. We had some dips in that season and a lot of the abuse thrown at the players/managers was incredibly unjust because the mitigation was so obvious. We did go six defeats in seven PL games at one point, which ought to act as a cautionary tale to anyone making conclusions about our current run of five defeats in nine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 Yes Yorkie, but that was then, this is now. Or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 12 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Yes Yorkie, but that was then, this is now. Or something. Yeah I guess. The reality is that it's a staple of all the seasons under Howe, there's always at least one stinking run of form. 21/22: run of W1 D4 L4 22/23: run of W1 D5 L2 23/24: run of W1 D0 L6 24/25: run of W2 D4 L5 Then we find our feet and get moving. I think it'll be harder this season, and we'll be more inconsistent, but you've got to have faith that we pull ourselves together at some point soon. Ultimately it's only the away form that's of any major concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 9 hours ago, Marxen the Mag said: You keep on going mate. You still haven't answered if this win gives Howe a whole season no matter how we do... That was the only point I was trying to make. Yes, for me it does. Unless the season takes a disastrous turn and we find ourselves firmly ensconced in the relegation zone. I'd still have him as our manager even if we finish 17th. I'm happy to give him a pass for one bad season. Now if next season starts off in a similar vein to this one...well, that's another matter altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 On 11/11/2025 at 09:55, r0cafella said: I'm personally yet to see any sincere serious posters even hint at wanting him sacked like. Yep haven't seen anyone on here, or spoken to anyone who wants him sacked. However I think, as much as we don't want to admit it, the mackem game will be key. If we lose to them I think we will start to hear calls for his head. That's just the nature of the beast and how football fans are. Burn being suspended and Hall being back is actually a stroke of luck. Tino back training now and Wissa shouldn't be far away now. Once those 3 are in the team we should see an improvement, and also a change in how we play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 12, 2025 Share Posted November 12, 2025 33 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Yeah I guess. The reality is that it's a staple of all the seasons under Howe, there's always at least one stinking run of form. 21/22: run of W1 D4 L4 22/23: run of W1 D5 L2 23/24: run of W1 D0 L6 24/25: run of W2 D4 L5 Then we find our feet and get moving. I think it'll be harder this season, and we'll be more inconsistent, but you've got to have faith that we pull ourselves together at some point soon. Ultimately it's only the away form that's of any major concern. Sorry, I was agreeing with you. Should have made it more obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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