Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 11 minutes ago, p_cowell141 said: The problem I have with Howe on recruitment is, we knew Elanga was stupidly overpriced and not what we needed. We knew Ramsey had injury problems and not the creative midfielder we were so lacking. We knew we were needing to have backup for fullbacks. And we knew we needed a long term goalkeeping solution. We might've sold Isak for 125m, but we've spunked double that on players who are either bang-average (Elanga, Ramsey, Ramsdale), don't fit our system (Woltemade), or don't have long term resale value or peak performance (Wissa). So many other clubs this summer have shown that much better players could be bought for much, MUCH less money. So the only thing Howe could rely on is knowing exactly how to use these players he's wanted for so long. And that just isn't the case. We're clueless, we're toothless, we lack intensity and tactical understanding, and we're mentally weak. You can't spend that much money on players you want and regress this quickly and not have criticism come your way. I'm not 'Howe Out', but as many have said, he needs to do a deeper rethink than he is letting on. As others have said he has no knowledge or contacts in Europe / South America and he’s too confident in himself / arrogant to look at that. Will always hold us back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 hour ago, nufc123 said: Problem is we have had several "Brentford away" games now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Looks like his post match comments aren't going down well at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 The poor away form and performances must stretch back nearly a year ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, SUPERTOON said: The poor away form and performances must stretch back nearly a year ? that is once again a myth. We were great away from home until the latter part of April this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Donut said: Looks like his post match comments aren't going down well at all. The “effort” comment is the one. However, it’s Eddie, we know he’ll never chuck the players under the bus, not least because he’s the one who’s ultimately been driving it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: He had his DoF walk out basically on the eve of the transfer window and our main striker act the cunt for its entirety. I'm a huge critic of our summer, it was a shit show, but I'm not putting any of the blame at the door of the people who picked up the baton due to the complete lack of accountability from the people above them. We still managed to get six big deals sorted (Woltemade, Elanga, Thiaw, Ramsey, Wissa and Ramsdale). For me they were capable of getting things done despite Mitchell bailing, they just went for the wrong type of players (namely Elanga and Ramsey). Obviously the Mitchell situation was a hinderance but I don’t think it was that big. Edited December 14, 2025 by SAK Missed a closing bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: that is once again a myth. We were great away from home until the latter part of April this year. Where we? Thought I saw a post saying Spurs was the only side in the top 12 we have beaten in a year, at least before Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Where we? Thought I saw a post saying Spurs was the only side in the top 12 we have beaten in a year, at least before Everton. Best away record in our modern history last season iirc. Maybe of all time? Can't remember the stat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Only hope for this season is that when Wissa comes in properly, he has a Papiss Cisse like impact where everything goes in for him. Otherwise, I just can’t see how this team evolves to compete in any meaningful way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, SAK said: We still managed to get six big deals sorted (Woltemade, Elanga, Thiaw, Ramsey, Wissa and Ramsdale. For me they were capable of getting things done despite Mitchell bailing, they just went for the wrong type of players (namely Elanga and Ramsey). Obviously the Mitchell situation was a hinderance but I don’t think it was that big. Getting the players in the end was done, but it was who we got vs the targets that was (very publicly) an issue. With a proper DoF in place I think that at the very least we don't hear about the long list of players we couldn't get over the line. Last summer had a 'the operation was a success bit the patient died' feel about it in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 We won 4 league away games in 2025 until late April. The 4 against the sides that finished 20th, 18th, 17th and 14th. We’ve added 1 to that total since. Its Christmas soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Since early Jan it’s West Ham, Leicester and Southampton last season, and Everton this season (which is more like an anomaly) in 16 games. It’s not good for a side that wants to be top 5. More importantly, it’s 8 defeats. 50% of games we lose, so unless you are faultless at home, it’s not sustainable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: We won 4 league away games in 2025 until late April. The 4 against the sides that finished 20th, 18th, 17th and 14th. We’ve added 1 to that total since. Its Christmas soon. Aye, I knew it was shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Getting the players in the end was done, but it was who we got vs the targets that was (very publicly) an issue. With a proper DoF in place I think that at the very least we don't hear about the long list of players we couldn't get over the line. Last summer had a 'the operation was a success bit the patient died' feel about it in the end. The rejections from memory were for the Isak replacement which were Ekitike and Sesko, can’t recall any other. Don’t think we even bid for Mbeumo once he stated it was Man U only for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 hour ago, Rich said: Genuinely think Eddie Howe with a full week to prepare a settled team is in the conversation for best manager in the league. He’s very clearly still not capable of managing a relentless fixture calendar that demands rotation on an almost game-by-game basis to that same high level, though. I’d argue that he’s as hamstrung by our squad quality than anything in that regard, but to be balanced, he’s had a massive hand in how we’ve used our funds. We’re so rigid and reliant on partnerships/patterns that we’ve just looked like a mess too often this season when the personnel has changed. Could write an awful lot more, but can’t be arsed. This season is sucking the life out of me after that cunt of a summer. Who's twisting his arm into persisting with Gordon and Elanga? They should have left to play in the midweek cup game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 3 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: We won 4 league away games in 2025 until late April. The 4 against the sides that finished 20th, 18th, 17th and 14th. We’ve added 1 to that total since. Its Christmas soon. we went 4-1-4, and three of those losses were to City, Villa, and Liverpool (in which we got our asses kicked), and the 4th was to Arsenal. The away form wasn't earth shattering, but it wasn't terrible at all considering our home form in that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Aye, I knew it was shit. yeah since he didn't give any other context. And utterly differen than saying we've barely won away in a year. Edited December 14, 2025 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 It just feels like we are scared to play our normal game against teams, see setup to more worry about opposition than to play own style. No confidence in our own ability, starting with Fulham we need to show them who we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, huss9 said: Who's twisting his arm into persisting with Gordon and Elanga? They should have left to play in the midweek cup game Tremendous if we get an Elanga v Traore shitoff for our viewing pleasure on Wednesday. Two hapless pace merchants trying to trap a penny floater and kicking it into shins/touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Getting the players in the end was done, but it was who we got vs the targets that was (very publicly) an issue. With a proper DoF in place I think that at the very least we don't hear about the long list of players we couldn't get over the line. Last summer had a 'the operation was a success bit the patient died' feel about it in the end. Elanga and Ramsey were long term targets, I don't think you can blame anyone else for signing the players Howe wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: we went 4-1-4, and three of those losses were to City, Villa, and Liverpool (in which we got our asses kicked), and the 4th was to Arsenal. The away form wasn't earth shattering, but it wasn't terrible at all considering our home form in that time. The performances were also poor back then tbh. Even in half of those wins. Spurs had half a squad available, a child in net and we were clinging on towards the end. West Ham was a dross match. Man City was frankly an embarrassing showing given how poor they were at the time. Arsenal was as nonexistent an attacking performance as today was. Villa tore us apart. Edited December 14, 2025 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: The performances were also poor back then tbh. Even in half of those wins. Spurs had half a squad available, a child in net and we were clinging on towards the end. West Ham was a dross match. Man City was frankly an embarrassing showing given how poor they were at the time. Arsenal was as nonexistent an attacking performance as today was. they were not that poor. They were canters and a couple were after the high of winning the Cup final when our form could've fallen off a cliff. Our losses were hammerings apart from Arsenal (where we wouldn't have score for another 200 minutes). Some ar ejust completely rewriting history here. The away form wasn't wonderful but it was ok in that time. Now in this season, it's shit. The away form was decent enough to set us up for getting the final CL spot, and frankly, those losses were expected. The result at home to Everton was the one that was not forgivable. 1 away win so far this season is dreadful. Edited December 14, 2025 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Not sure why he’s made the post-match comments he has. It’s absolutely infuriating after a risible derby defeat to talk about the ‘good’ aspects to our performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: Not sure why he’s made the post-match comments he has. It’s absolutely infuriating after a risible derby defeat to talk about the ‘good’ aspects to our performance. Especially when there weren’t any Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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