Kid Icarus Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SAK said: The rejections from memory were for the Isak replacement which were Ekitike and Sesko, can’t recall any other. Don’t think we even bid for Mbeumo once he stated it was Man U only for him. And the rest. Delap, Joao Pedro, Ramos etc And in other positions we were publicly in for and lost out on (off the top of my head) Trafford, Hujsen, Scalvini, Leoni. Edited December 14, 2025 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: Not sure why he’s made the post-match comments he has. It’s absolutely infuriating after a risible derby defeat to talk about the ‘good’ aspects to our performance. The Jarman lad got another goal in suppose. He really needs a win next game to turn this around . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Absolutely outthought tactically today by the Sunderland manager. Blood and thunder approach by a tactically inferior team completely neutralised Eddie’s tread gently, light touch plan. Horrendous decision by him and the coaching staff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: And the rest. Delap, Joao Pedro, Ramos etc And in other positions we were publicly in for and lost out on (off the top of my head) Trafford, Hujsen, Scalvini, Leoni. Fair do’s forgot about Delap, Joao Pedro, Leoni, and Trafford. Dont think Ramos, Huijsen and Scalvini were anything more than paper talk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Even ignoring the fact it was a derby. We have seen similar performances away all season/year. Toothless in attack and a bit soft at the back in key moments. Neither team deserved to win. But it’s more than a bit of a worry that the minute they’ve scored. Basically every NUFC fan knew it was game over and we wouldn’t score or even create anything meaningful. Howe has turned it around before. So I won’t say I can’t see it changing or he won’t sort it. But the away performances and lack of any sort of gameplan or consistency. Is getting hard to see past. Just doesn’t seem like we are anywhere near to turning it around. Throw in the fact that I have no idea what our best team is. We have too many key players out of form and we have a load of summer signings not performing (or playing). Then he certainly has his work cut out. Can’t remember watching too many games under Howe where I’ve felt embarrassed and disgusted with the performance and the effort. But FWIW, that’s the third one this season (Brentford and West Ham). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 I'm mostly worried about how disjointed our attacks seem and the general malaise that seems to have seeped in. Sunderland never got a sniff of a chance and really it should have been 0-0 but that is also a concern. No teeth, no bite at all in our attack. Still back Howe for the rest of the season but something has to change. Can the lack of training time affect us THIS much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 5 minutes ago, SAK said: Fair do’s forgot about Delap, Joao Pedro, Leoni, and Trafford. Dont think Ramos, Huijsen and Scalvini were anything more than paper talk? Strand Larsen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Izakaya said: Strand Larsen? He's a carthorse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Izakaya said: Strand Larsen? That was the club rejecting our offer, not the player rejecting us I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, McDog said: I'm mostly worried about how disjointed our attacks seem and the general malaise that seems to have seeped in. Sunderland never got a sniff of a chance and really it should have been 0-0 but that is also a concern. No teeth, no bite at all in our attack. Still back Howe for the rest of the season but something has to change. Can the lack of training time affect us THIS much? If that's the case, then it is obviously a serious problem for a club trying to challenge at the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: If that's the case, then it is obviously a serious problem for a club trying to challenge at the top. I agree but something is fucked up here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, El Prontonise said: He's a carthorse. We were the daft cunts chasing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 0 points from losing positions this season is damning. Add to that, let’s say roles reversed today and we’re 1-0 up going in to the final 10 minutes. We all know how that ends. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Maggies said: 0 points from losing positions this season is damning. Add to that, let’s say roles reversed today and we’re 1-0 up going in to the final 10 minutes. We all know how that ends. Pathetic. Is that true ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Ben said: Is that true ? Aye came up on Sky Sports during the game when Sunderland scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Ben said: Is that true ? In the PL, aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 4 minutes ago, Holmesy said: That was the club rejecting our offer, not the player rejecting us I think @Izakaya That was going to be my response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Shit, that's poor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 The plan isn't working and he doesn't seem to be able to change it, or even want to change it. He needs some kind of intervention, a mushroom trip, something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mountain said: The plan isn't working and he doesn't seem to be able to change it, or even want to change it. He needs some kind of intervention, a mushroom trip, something. This will do the trick Edited December 14, 2025 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, bobbydazzla said: This will might do the trick Luuk de Bong up front instead of Woltemade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 20 minutes ago, RS said: Absolutely outthought tactically today by the Sunderland manager. Blood and thunder approach by a tactically inferior team completely neutralised Eddie’s tread gently, light touch plan. Horrendous decision by him and the coaching staff No he wasn’t It was an awful game where fuck all was created by both sides and lost with a freak OG. We were shit and they just about beat us. “Absolutely out thought tactically” come on man. This was hardly us getting pumped under Bruce and Pardew 3-0 every other week that had any sort of basic set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, St1pe said: No he wasn’t It was an awful game where fuck all was created by both sides and lost with a freak OG. We were shit and they just about beat us. “Absolutely out thought tactically” come on man. This was hardly us getting pumped under Bruce and Pardew 3-0 every other week that had any sort of basic set up. They were toothless as us. If the game would have gone 180 minutes I still think it would be 0-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Honestly, ignoring saving us from relegation, two Champions League runs,two league cups runs with a win, today was was worse than relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Think if we fail to get Europe, and don’t win a trophy this season, that’ll be the end of him, and hard to argue against that. The importance of European football cannot be underplayed, it’s crucial to having a chance in keeping your Tinos, Sandros and Brunos. We struggled to sign players with CL, no Europe at all and our summer recruitment will be very difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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