Eddie Howe

[Cheshire Mag]

Just now, midds said:

Genuinely think that pulling this back around is beyond him right now. I love the bloke and want the very best for him but he's looking a bit clueless out there. His players are letting him down to some degree but he's calling all of the shots but watching us is tear gas stuff. It's utter shite and the inconsistency between home and away performances swills away the whole "we had a poor window" nonsense. The same squad decides to show up for some games and hides 4 days later. That's not a transfer window issue, that's a management issue, don't buy it for a single second, it's an easy card to pay to defend a manager who can't get consistent performances from his squad - it's harsh but it's also true

I couldn’t have put it any better than that. It’s exactly where I’m at right now.

[Moose]

He has a lot of credit in the bank and the fact that the summer window was a clusterfuck should buy him a season of immunity. 

 

However, come June and we've failed to qualify for Europe, likely finished below the mackems and our best players leaving en masse makes the conversation about his future very different.

 

Sorry for being a Debbie Downer but I can't see us getting Europe this season at all

[Dokko]

Problem is, if we don't get Europe then we lose tino & Tonali, possibly Bruno as well. Smarter teams will be looking at hall, but think his connection keeps him. So new manager comes in and is left with players who are poor and have shown very little quality. You'll have the Howe fans on their back immediately, even though they'll be at this point fixing his mess. It'll take a couple of managers to fix where we are. Losing isak should never have caused this, it was handled poorly by the club, even though he acted the cunt. In an alternate world we let isak go early and bag etikite and this season pans out very differently for all involved.

 

I do also wonder if we get our 1st or 2nd choices with a big name manager. Someone who players respect across Europe, maybe even world football. Howe doesn't have that. No English managers do these days. Sad but true.

[nufc4eva]

Just now, Collage said:

Europe cost us 

If he's a top manager wouldn't he have planned to cope with it. Other teams play in Europe as well and have had better seasons than us, see Palace and Villa. It's not an excuse really and yes we have had injuries but he's getting nothing out of Gordon, Ramsey, Elanga, Tonali has looked poor recently, Bruno gets overplayed but also makes silly mistakes. He perseveres with systems and players that aren't working. The effort hasn't been there at times in terms of intensity and aggression, it's all been passive and weak as fuck all season.

[splinter]

Pre season was a disaster and everything has flowed from there.The Isak situation and the Mitchell situation put everything  up in the air. Given time im sure Eddie and Wilson will get things right.

 

 

Edited December 26, 2025 by splinter

[dcmk]

1 minute ago, midds said:

Genuinely think that pulling this back around is beyond him right now. I love the bloke and want the very best for him but he's looking a bit clueless out there. His players are letting him down to some degree but he's calling all of the shots but watching us is tear gas stuff. It's utter shite and the inconsistency between home and away performances swills away the whole "we had a poor window" nonsense. The same squad decides to show up for some games and hides 4 days later. That's not a transfer window issue, that's a management issue, don't buy it for a single second, it's an easy card to pay to defend a manager who can't get consistent performances from his squad - it's harsh but it's also true

Has he not turned around poor form before?

 

 

[andycap]

So are the howe backers seriously saying any other manager would have us mid table or lower? Sounds daft to me he's done well with us but struggles with European seasons and doesn't seem to be able to overcome them with as far as keeping his players fresh and up for it.

[black_n_white]

3 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

I think performance in football includes the ability to look like you'll score.

Had we scored a lucky goal and won 1-0 the reaction would have been completely different tonight. I get your sentiment though.

 

 

Edited December 26, 2025 by black_n_white

[dcmk]

1 minute ago, Dokko said:

Problem is, if we don't get Europe then we lose tino & Tonali, possibly Bruno as well. Smarter teams will be looking at hall, but think his connection keeps him. So new manager comes in and is left with players who are poor and have shown very little quality. You'll have the Howe fans on their back immediately, even though they'll be at this point fixing his mess. It'll take a couple of managers to fix where we are. Losing isak should never have caused this, it was handled poorly by the club, even though he acted the cunt. In an alternate world we let isak go early and bag etikite and this season pans out very differently for all involved.

 

I do also wonder if we get our 1st or 2nd choices with a big name manager. Someone who players respect across Europe, maybe even world football. Howe doesn't have that. No English managers do these days. Sad but true.

He is a nailed on future England manager.  He has many, many admirers.

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, dcmk said:

Has he not turned around poor form before?

 

 

No guarantee that he’ll turn it around every time, but since he has every time in the last here, he certainly should get the chance this time.

[midds]

1 minute ago, dcmk said:

Has he not turned around poor form before?

 

 

Yep. What's your point? 

[Matt1892]

More likely to be Glasner or Iraola, rather than Conte or Mourinho. 

[KingArthur]

3 minutes ago, Dokko said:

Problem is, if we don't get Europe then we lose tino & Tonali, possibly Bruno as well. Smarter teams will be looking at hall, but think his connection keeps him. So new manager comes in and is left with players who are poor and have shown very little quality. You'll have the Howe fans on their back immediately, even though they'll be at this point fixing his mess. It'll take a couple of managers to fix where we are. Losing isak should never have caused this, it was handled poorly by the club, even though he acted the cunt. In an alternate world we let isak go early and bag etikite and this season pans out very differently for all involved.

 

I do also wonder if we get our 1st or 2nd choices with a big name manager. Someone who players respect across Europe, maybe even world football. Howe doesn't have that. No English managers do these days. Sad but true.

Naah, Villa didnt lose their best players when they didnt get UCL. Or ManU. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, midds said:

Yep. What's your point? 

That he deserves a chance to turn it around this time?

[Donut]

6 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

Is it ? 

Yes.. how is this even a question? 

 

Ramsey... awful nothing player. Cost more than Bruno and helped a league rival with their finances.

Elanga... abysmal and expensive.

Wissa... Injured for the majority of his time here (no one to blame for this, but it still counts as a shite signing so far)

Thiaw... Very good. Looked ropey these past two games.

Ramsdale... Not good enough and has arguably cost us quite a bit of points.

Woltemade... Scores a lot of goals so a good signing so far. I do wonder if he will be found out by other teams.

 

Targett loaned out even though he looked decent in preseason = Miley having to play RB.

 

Overall id say its been pretty dire.

 

[Novocastrian]

5 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

I have to admit the performance was OK, and I’m sure Howe will echo that. The issue was we were toothless in the final third.

Second half was, we can’t ignore another 45 min performance. First 45 was amongst the worst this season in a crowded field.

[Displayname]

2 minutes ago, nufc4eva said:

If he's a top manager wouldn't he have planned to cope with it. Other teams play in Europe as well and have had better seasons than us, see Palace and Villa. It's not an excuse really and yes we have had injuries but he's getting nothing out of Gordon, Ramsey, Elanga, Tonali has looked poor recently, Bruno gets overplayed but also makes silly mistakes. He perseveres with systems and players that aren't working. The effort hasn't been there at times in terms of intensity and aggression, it's all been passive and weak as fuck all season.

Don't think he has it in him to cope with it.

He relies on an intensive playstyle with more or less the same players playing every week. 

 

Not something that gells with playing in Europe, no matter how much you plan for it.

[Geordie Ahmed]

5 minutes ago, JoeyBartoon said:

Only fear of relegation! He’s spent a fortune, I’d imagine not qualifying for Europe should mean losing the gig 

 

Spending a fortune doesn't guarantee you anything 

 

This season hasn't been good enough and if this was his first season I'd probably be with those asking serious questions 

 

However, I'm not willing to forget the previous 4 years, nor the way he has transformed us and neither the way he has came out of previous ruts

[joeyt]

Not beating Burnley is unthinkable 

[Dokko]

1 minute ago, dcmk said:

He is a nailed on future England manager.  He has many, many admirers.

 

Not outside of England he doesn't. The pinicle of his career will be just that, something Southgate, mcclaren & fat sham had a chance at.

[Collage]

1 minute ago, nufc4eva said:

If he's a top manager wouldn't he have planned to cope with it. Other teams play in Europe as well and have had better seasons than us, see Palace and Villa. It's not an excuse really and yes we have had injuries but he's getting nothing out of Gordon, Ramsey, Elanga, Tonali has looked poor recently, Bruno gets overplayed but also makes silly mistakes. He perseveres with systems and players that aren't working. The effort hasn't been there at times in terms of intensity and aggression, it's all been passive and weak as fuck all season.

I agree, it’s not an excuse, that was my point. I think he’s changed the way we play, gone away from the high intensity pressing to cope with the number of games, and that has cost us. Instead we should rotate more, but injuries haven’t helped

[Pilko]

"I thought Anthony played well" when asked about his favourite player by the Sky interviewer.

[nufc4eva]

1 minute ago, dcmk said:

Has he not turned around poor form before?

 

 

He has but when will he realise sooner the need to change. Can't always throw away half a season and hope to recover it in New Year. Bad form happens, top managers realise and change it. He's looking more clueless every game and that's the problem.

 

I want him to turn it around but this can't keep happening and he needs to evolve the team which he isn't doing.

[The Prophet]

3 minutes ago, Dokko said:

Problem is, if we don't get Europe then we lose tino & Tonali, possibly Bruno as well. Smarter teams will be looking at hall, but think his connection keeps him. So new manager comes in and is left with players who are poor and have shown very little quality. You'll have the Howe fans on their back immediately, even though they'll be at this point fixing his mess. It'll take a couple of managers to fix where we are. Losing isak should never have caused this, it was handled poorly by the club, even though he acted the cunt. In an alternate world we let isak go early and bag etikite and this season pans out very differently for all involved.

 

I do also wonder if we get our 1st or 2nd choices with a big name manager. Someone who players respect across Europe, maybe even world football. Howe doesn't have that. No English managers do these days. Sad but true.

 

One season outside of Europe isn't going to trigger a mass exodus. We're at risk of losing Tino and Tonali regardless.

[Casey]

Just now, Pilko said:

"I thought Anthony played well" when asked about his favourite player by the Sky interviewer.