Izakaya Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Depending on how Carrick goes looking after Man U, I could see PIF throwing his name about given the fact he's from WAAAALZEND Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 24 minutes ago, The Prophet said: When talking about progress this season, it's interesting the cup runs are never spoken about. After 14 years of us throwing cup ties so we could concentrate on existing in the PL, good to see good cup progress is completely taken for granted already. Another rod Howe has made for his own back. Edited February 2 by Interpolic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, GideonShandy said: Don't think any of those would take the job. Or Maresca or Jogi Low. Southgate, Iraola or Pochettino might. After that you're looking at the likes of Thomas Frank, Marco Silva, the bloke from Sunderland -- that sort of level. Or try to tempt Mourinho back for (another) last hurrah. There's not one of them that I'd bet on to do a better job than Eddie. Sacking him would be absolutely nuts. You wouldn’t sack him for any of those managers I agree. But plenty on here still stuck in the Ashley era and underestimating pull of NUFC, owners and the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 10 minutes ago, magorific said: What? The Keegan who was at the mighty Southampton and knew he was no longer going to be in the England set-up? Aye, that's him. We must remember what kind of club NUFC was at that time. KK dropped a Division to join us. Southampton were a much better club than us at the time. Edited February 2 by Robster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, GideonShandy said: Don't think any of those would take the job. Or Maresca or Jogi Low. Southgate, Iraola or Pochettino might. After that you're looking at the likes of Thomas Frank, Marco Silva, the bloke from Sunderland -- that sort of level. Or try to tempt Mourinho back for (another) last hurrah. There's not one of them that I'd bet on to do a better job than Eddie. Sacking him would be absolutely nuts. Largely agree. Iraola would be the only one of the realistic contenders who'd interest me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 He's not going anywhere unless things carry on as they are well into next season at which point the natives will be restless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 14 minutes ago, magorific said: What? The Keegan who was at the mighty Southampton and knew he was no longer going to be in the England set-up? KK didn’t know that. Bobby Robson was at his debut vs QPR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 35 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Alonso might, last I heard he’s out of work. It’s not like we haven’t persuaded a manager whose last managerial job was Real Madrid to join before. I wouldn’t hire Alonso over Howe, though. Ex Real Manager you say, Ancelotti it is. I reckon he's one of the managers likely to leave international management after the world cup and he'd definitely be interested in the job. Would help to keep Bruno as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I think Eddies the type of bloke who if he thinks he can’t take us any further he’ll walk away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Might be in the minority, but I wouldn’t swap Howe for Alonso or Ancelotti. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Might be in the minority, but I wouldn’t swap Howe for Alonso or Ancelotti. I wouldn’t for Alonso, and Ancelotti’s time at Everton would make me think twice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: He’s got 10x the net spend of Emery. He’s been backed pretty handsomely. Needs to get a tune out of what he’s assembled. I am talking about Jan - zero spend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 20 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: Ex Real Manager you say, Ancelotti it is. I reckon he's one of the managers likely to leave international management after the world cup and he'd definitely be interested in the job. Would help to keep Bruno as well Let's say he did come to Newcastle. It is very likely it wouldn't go well. He would be linked to every top job throughout his time here, that's what happened at Everton and it was unsettling for the team. He was much bigger than that Everton job and he knew it and inevitably he left for Madrid. Would be the same with us. Conte at Spurs was the same, when managers are bigger than the job there is nothing to motivate them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 ‘Being backed by the board’ in today’s modern game is putting together a transfer committee that gets him the best players. That gets Mo Salah over the managers preference Julian Brandt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, dcmk said: Let's say he did come to Newcastle. It is very likely it wouldn't go well. He would be linked to every top job throughout his time here, that's what happened at Everton and it was unsettling for the team. He was much bigger than that Everton job and he knew it and inevitably he left for Madrid. Would be the same with us. Conte at Spurs was the same, when managers are bigger than the job there is nothing to motivate them. He's 66 now and has done every big club going. That risk is much lower now. He's also a winner pretty much everywhere he has been and would help evolve the style of play if that's a direction the club wants to take. Even in his time at Everton he finished 10th with 2 quarter finals, not bad for where Everton have been before and after his time there. He would be the best realistic target if a change is made. The 2 Germans facing off at the world cup would be next in the hierarchy bit Tuchel is likely to be a bit sparky for PIF and Nagglesman is a bit of a wild card and more likely to attract the media noise on potential job hopping. Then it's someone like Jose (it's written in the stars that he wins the league with us 🤣) or younger manager with something to prove but a lot of risk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 15 minutes ago, duo said: I am talking about Jan - zero spend Nowt to spend in Jan if you spunk a quarter of a billion in the summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: ‘Being backed by the board’ in today’s modern game is putting together a transfer committee that gets him the best players. That gets Mo Salah over the managers preference Julian Brandt. I have my doubts that the board were the ones headhunting Andy Howe to run the transfer committee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Nowt to spend in Jan if you spunk a quarter of a billion in the summer Not what kieran maguire said - reckoned we'd head room to have spent £100 mil this Jan / £100 mil in the Summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: He's 66 now and has done every big club going. That risk is much lower now. He's also a winner pretty much everywhere he has been and would help evolve the style of play if that's a direction the club wants to take. Even in his time at Everton he finished 10th with 2 quarter finals, not bad for where Everton have been before and after his time there. He would be the best realistic target if a change is made. The 2 Germans facing off at the world cup would be next in the hierarchy bit Tuchel is likely to be a bit sparky for PIF and Nagglesman is a bit of a wild card and more likely to attract the media noise on potential job hopping. Then it's someone like Jose (it's written in the stars that he wins the league with us 🤣) or younger manager with something to prove but a lot of risk Gonna have to agree to disagree. Just would think any top club without a manager would inevitably be linked to a big name like Ancelotti. Which would have the potential to really unsettle us, just like it did for Everton. He left there in a hurry when Madrid called. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, duo said: Not what kieran maguire said - reckoned we'd head room to have spent £100 mil this Jan / £100 mil in the Summer More: Quote Kieran Maguire on how much Newcastle could spend in January: "They are in a really strong position. They made a huge profit on Isak, they have got the benefit of Champions League money. Newcastle could drop £200m across this window and the next window and still be well within the limits. "Even if they sign a defender for £30m-£40m in January, they would only have six months of amortisation to throw into the equation. So a £40m defender on a five-year contract for six months only works out at a £4m cost, plus his wages, but they have got nothing to worry about." "They get €2m just for one victory in the Champions League so they are in Position A when it comes to recruiting." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, The Bonk said: More: Thank you. I cannot believe for one second that Eddie wouldn't have wanted another defender in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I have my doubts that the board were the ones headhunting Andy Howe to run the transfer committee Isn’t going t their job or someone else they hire job to pic the transfer committee? How many top clubs does the manager choose the transfer committee?I don’t even Pep has that power Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 21 minutes ago, duo said: Not what kieran maguire said - reckoned we'd head room to have spent £100 mil this Jan / £100 mil in the Summer The new SCR rules come in this summer; 85% squad cost to turnover with a 30% allowance over this figure. If we finish lower midtable and miss out on Europe we’ll take a real knock to our income levels - and get hit with a second whammy, as our SCR will be reduced to 70% (with the usual 30% overrun). The higher 85% limit is only for clubs which qualify for Europe. Going over the second threshold will be a sporting sanction - more than likely points deductions. Without European qualification, we’d have a tough time of spending without selling. You’d hope the club would be across this; even if Maguire isn’t. edit: the ‘three season rolling’ thing doesn’t apply from next season due to the changes, so I’ve no idea why Maguire thinks the Isak sale and CL money means we can spend in the summer. Edited February 2 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Being Liverpool and the way things have been going, I fully expected conceding 3-4 goals. It doesn’t matter how shit their form is or how well we are, it’s always like that. Feels like a curse. So I wasn’t devastated by the result. i was more bothered by the post match conference and how broken eddie seemed. Genuinely a twinge of worry about the bloke. I think in any other job, his employer needs to say, look take a week off, tindall and the others are well paid and capable of holding the fort. Come back in a week, mentally rested, stronger and ready to get back at it. But that won’t happen as it’s football and Eddie would just say no even if it was offered. Don’t know, really, first time I’ve seen Eddie that down. Not nice to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Isn’t going t their job or someone else they hire job to pic the transfer committee? How many top clubs does the manager choose the transfer committee?I don’t even Pep has that power Agreed, it shows that the club isn’t being run properly. I also don’t think Pep would appoint his nephew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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