Erikse Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 We will sound quite delusional to outsiders if we claim that Howe hasn't been given support.. That's the type of thing that we would laugh about if someone else with our spending made the same claim about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, La Parka said: 1 hour ago, La Parka said: 33 minutes ago, La Parka said: Cheers pilko Class night for you. Can feel the glee. Congrats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Interpolic said: Class night for you. Can feel the glee. Congrats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Sandrotastico said: And a good coach? You’ve lost me there like. Who’s a good coach ? Carrick ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Erikse said: We will sound quite delusional to outsiders if we claim that Howe hasn't been given support.. That's the type of thing that we would laugh about if someone else with our spending made the same claim about them. He’s been given massive support tbf, but going into last summer in the mess we did was inexcusable for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 9 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: That can be swung around to an argument of we spent £125m net on a team that finished 5th and look lucky to be finishing in the top half this season. Clearly nothing else happened between finishing 5th and having a £125m net spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said: How is Guardiola in any way relevant? Has anyone suggested Howe is failing because we’re not competing for 2nd with Man City? No. They’ve pointed out we should be doing much better than 12th and based on our expenditure, we should be. Because I was responding to a post from someone who said they were "sick of hearing about PSR" as if it's not an issue when it is. Let's say PSR doesn't restrict us from doing better right now, if the ultimate aim is to get to the very top, and we've spent it all on getting better, how do you then also go again to get to the very top? That's the dichotomy, and that dichotomy only exists for the likes of us because of PSR and doesn't apply to the teams that are already at the top who can spend and spend again. Honestly man. Edited February 7 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, La Parka said: Seriously absolute mackem behaviour. Very, very strange. Well done for moaning earlier than the majority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 13 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: I've given him shit for tactics recently but I thought he made proactive changes today and he is genuinely hamstrung by the full back options. He's just had a whole month to at least get in a loan or two. 5 million for an aging but still capable Andy Robertson doesn't sound like a bad idea now. I'm losing faith in him, but I don't know who could replace him. If he stays we'll no doubt remain hovering around the top ten for years. If he goes we risk turning into Tottenham. If we could deepfake some dodgy pics of Emery to blackmail him to ditch Villa for us then I'd be happy to part ways with howe. Or maybe Guardiola fancies the chance to show he's capable of turning an also-ran team into a top team instead of walking into already successful clubs. I honestly don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Plenty to criticise after that and after the season we've had so far, I'm personally feeling as dejected about the rest of the season as I ever have under Howe, but the (thankfully few) supposed Newcastle fans who are visibly happy that we lost that because they think it proves them right are weird as fuck. Your team lost and you're happy about it, because you think it vindicates you in some way. It's MAGAesque. If validation of you making hating Eddie Howe your personality matters more to you than Newcastle United winning, then what the fuck are we even doing here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Interpolic said: Seriously absolute mackem behaviour. Very, very strange. Well done for moaning earlier than the majority. Truly appalling stuff and massive disrespect to arguably our best ever manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Clearly nothing else happened between finishing 5th and having a £125m net spend. Unsure that losing Isak is the sole reason that the team look hopeless in possession home and away, we look devoid of any attacking ideas or that we are incapable of winning away from home 6 months from his departure tbh. We’ve seen similar performances to today when Isak was up front tbh. Edited February 7 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Boggles my mind that anyone would seriously want Mourinho in. Done fuck all of note for years, proper divisive figure and overall yesterday’s man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Danh1 said: Boggles my mind that anyone would seriously want Mourinho in. Done fuck all of note for years, proper divisive figure and overall yesterday’s man. Also shows just how hard it is to suggest a better manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 42 minutes ago, Pixelphish said: Gutted for this guy tbh. That post match had an air about it I didn't enjoy. Keegan in December/January 96/97 vibes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Clearly nothing else happened between finishing 5th and having a £125m net spend. Ah yes. Isak leaving makes Howe persist with Trippier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 PSR didn't stop us spunking money on 3 bog standard players in Elanga, Missa and the Villa bloke. Money wasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: Also shows just how hard it is to suggest a better manager. At the minute there isn’t anyone realistic available that I would see as an obvious upgrade on Howe. In the summer there’ll be other options I’m sure. The manager market is probably the lowest quality it’s been in some time imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: Unsure that losing Isak is the sole reason that the team look hopeless in possession home and away, we look devoid of any attacking ideas or that we are incapable of winning away from home 6 months from his departure tbh. We’ve seen similar performances to today when Isak was up front tbh. The point is reducing things down to 'spent loads but are worse' is exactly that: reductive. There's various reasons for why those things are happening and some of them have fuck all to do with Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Jose Mourinho my arse. That ship sailed 20 odd year ago when Robson left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Izakaya said: 9 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Clearly nothing else happened between finishing 5th and having a £125m net spend. Ah yes. Isak leaving makes Howe persist with Trippier Nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Yorkie said: The point is reducing things down to 'spent loads but are worse' is exactly that: reductive. There's various reasons for why those things are happening and some of them have fuck all to do with Howe. And many of them do. Absolving him of blame and/or believing he and only he can manage NUFC is incredibly shortsighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Danh1 said: At the minute there isn’t anyone realistic available that I would see as an obvious upgrade on Howe. In the summer there’ll be other options I’m sure. The manager market is probably the lowest quality it’s been in some time imo. It’s in part because they’re all transitioning into being head coaches, not managers. No owner in their right mind is handing the head coach a blank cheque to sign players. It’s part of the reason why the PL is so tight these days - the coaching levels are pretty consistent across the board. It’s also why clubs with first-class recruitment teams (Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford etc) don’t fall away when the manager changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 12 minutes ago, Erikse said: Bit of a weird example. They finished on the same amount of points as us (we had no europe), despite going all the way to the quarterfinal in CL, and reaching the semifinal in the FA Cup. If anything that proves that it can be done with a relatively thin squad. Not a weird example at all. Villa were in our position this time last year and recovered, they spent and loaned big in January, then went on a mad run from March to May. The only thing it really proves is that you can be in a terrible position and recover (Villa were 12th at the end of February), that you can buy yourself out of a hole with signings and that being in those situations doesn't necessarily mean that the manager is to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heero Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Its not ll Eddie's fault. Our owners are as much to blame maybe even more so by not having a sporting director in place in the summer and cleary it led to where we are now. The players if they want to play champions leauge have to look at themselves to. Although probably the team is tired from all the games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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