Eddie Howe

[Cf]

Referring to getting knocked out of the CL Round of 16 from Barcelona as "crashing out of the cup" 

[huss9]

2 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

If he crashes out the cups and loses the derby he has to go, the next day. As Newcastle manager you cannot let Sunderland do the double over you. 

mackemesque thinking.

[Spartan]

It's the owners who will make the decision either way, come the end of the season. Doesn't matter what Howe in/Howe out, or in the middle think. The rest of this month is a huge period though and the outcome will probably have an overall effect on the owners thinking.

 

 

Edited March 2 by Spartan

[Zero]

That’s my take as well. If I, or we, the fans here, are the owner, then Howe must be safe till next season.

 

But to PIF, if the club is out of all competition after March, no hope for Top 8 finish, no upturn in performance till the end of the season, and also lose to Sunderland again, then I think that’s really when the axe will fall.

[astraguy]

This is on the ownership not Eddie he shouldn't take the blame for the mess in the summer

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, astraguy said:

This is on the ownership not Eddie he shouldn't take the blame for the mess in the summer

He shares some responsibility.  They’re his signings.

[astraguy]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

He shares some responsibility.  They’re his signings.

But the most important ones haven't been able to have a Eddie pre season they needed, wasn't the isak saga still going on whilst the prem kicked off?

[TheBrownBottle]

7 minutes ago, astraguy said:

But the most important ones haven't been able to have an Eddie pre season they needed, wasn't the isak saga still going on whilst the prem kicked off?

Elanga was signed in May, with Howe having tried to sign him the summer before.  A full Eddie pre-season - and a player Howe clearly wanted - hasn’t done him much good.  I think there is a bit of a myth being built up around what Howe (or any other coach / manager) can do for a player.  The likes of Elanga and Woltemade aren’t a bit raw but needing tweaking - they’re miles away from being PL performers.  Elanga barely looks like a top flight winger. 

[r0cafella]

10 minutes ago, astraguy said:

But the most important ones haven't been able to have a Eddie pre season they needed, wasn't the isak saga still going on whilst the prem kicked off?

It was but that's football. Things rarely to exactly according to plan and despite everything it's Eddie's job to get the best out of the players he chose. Eddie has considerable mitigation for this season that should go without question however we've also underachieved in the league to date and this isn't acceptable given the amount of influence he has and the amount spent during his tenure. 

[astraguy]

2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Elanga was signed in May, with Howe having tried to sign him the summer before.  A full Eddie pre-season - and a player Howe clearly wanted - hasn’t done him much good.  I think there is a bit of a myth being built up around what Howe (or any other coach / manager) can do for a player.  The likes of Elanga and Woltemade aren’t a bit raw but needing tweaking - they’re miles away from being PL performers.  Elanga barely looks like a top flight winger. 

Elanga hasn't really got anyone upfront like Murphy did with isak and Wilson, Murphy's season has been poor because we have no connection up top

[Spartan]

29 minutes ago, astraguy said:

This is on the ownership not Eddie he shouldn't take the blame for the mess in the summer

It was Howe who persuaded the owners to get rid of Mitchell in the meeting after the season ended. Yes, the owners should have brought someone in sooner, but to say he doesn't have responsibility also is incorrect.

 

 

Edited March 2 by Spartan

[GideonShandy]

16 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Elanga was signed in May, with Howe having tried to sign him the summer before.  

July, according to Wikipedia.  Although that doesn't really detract from your point.

 

"On 11 July 2025, Elanga joined Newcastle United for a reported £55 million transfer fee. . . . On 16 August, he made his debut for the club in a 0–0 draw against Aston Villa in the league."

[Decky]

I haven't been following the fallout from the Everton game because I can't be bothered with it. But my opinion on Howe is he is allowed a bad transfer window last summer, and he is allowed a bad season, even if this one gets worse. Give him a chance to reshape the squad in the summer and go again. 

 

Howe is one of our most successful managers and the last few years have been brilliant, even this season has had some class moments. I honestly couldn't be bothered rolling the dice on a new manager because it's always a risk, so I'd rather just back Howe on a rebuild. 

[Optimistic Nut]

I still want him to stay and think he can turn it around next season, but fully accept it if the owners go in another direction now. 

[SUPERTOON]

32 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

I still want him to stay and think he can turn it around next season, but fully accept it if the owners go in another direction now. 

I think he can turn it around, however i don't think he can with this current squad. The summer is massive. 

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I think he can turn it around, however i don't think he can with this current squad. The summer is massive. 

Do you think we can do enough in the summer to turn it around? 

[Optimistic Nut]

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I think he can turn it around, however i don't think he can with this current squad. The summer is massive. 

 

That's why I've written off this season. I think top 10 at best now. I do think we can sneak through one of the rounds in the FA Cup or Champions League though. Next season he needs to hit the ground running. If we're not competing for top 4 by October he'll be gone. 

[r0cafella]

5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

That's why I've written off this season. I think top 10 at best now. I do think we can sneak through one of the rounds in the FA Cup or Champions League though. Next season he needs to hit the ground running. If we're not competing for top 4 by October he'll be gone. 

If they have any doubts they need to say goodbye in the summer. Giving him a summer to buy more players to bin him in October would be the worst possible thing we could do. 

[Optimistic Nut]

If we recruit well then I don't think there's anything to worry about us not being in the chase by October. If we recruit badly, that's not on Howe. 

 

Give him a goalkeeper and a striker even with the other weaknesses and we'll be golden. I think even this season just those two positions would have been worth 12-15 points. 

 

 

Edited March 2 by Optimistic Nut

[r0cafella]

Just now, Optimistic Nut said:

If we recruit well then I don't think there's anything to worry about us not being in the chase by October. If we recruit badly, that's not on Howe. 

Eh, you think Ross Wilson who's a bit of nobody is going to be deciding who we do and don't buy? Eddie is very much involved in the recruitment we do man. 

[ExiledGeordie]

13 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

That's why I've written off this season. I think top 10 at best now. I do think we can sneak through one of the rounds in the FA Cup or Champions League though. Next season he needs to hit the ground running. If we're not competing for top 4 by October he'll be gone. 

Yes can cannot afford a slow start at all if he’s still in charge. 

[ExiledGeordie]

The summer window is HUGE 

[Optimistic Nut]

6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Eh, you think Ross Wilson who's a bit of nobody is going to be deciding who we do and don't buy? Eddie is very much involved in the recruitment we do man. 

 

I doubt Howe went into last summer wanting Woltemade as his main striker. Do you? I think we wanted Wissa from day one as our Wilson replacement which at the time was fair enough. Woltemade definitely screamed desperation. 

 

I think he also clearly wanted Trafford this season. If we have Trafford and one of Ekitike/Pedro or one or two others we chased, we're up with Villa, Man Utd, Liverpool & Chelsea this season. 

 

 

Edited March 2 by Optimistic Nut

[RS]

Can’t think of another manager more suited or could bring any more success to us than Eddie Howe. Top of the pile.

 

We are still doing very well for a nothing club who, until recently, had a core function of basically stinking up the lower PL for a decade and a half trying to avoid relegation and spent 50 years prior to that winning fuck all. 

[lovejoy]

7 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Eh, you think Ross Wilson who's a bit of nobody is going to be deciding who we do and don't buy? Eddie is very much involved in the recruitment we do man. 

I think he means the competency and speed of the deals done.

 

if we’d had that last summer it wouldn’t have panned out as it did.

 

that part isn’t on Howe.