Eddie Howe

[Zero]

I ain’t sure whether it’s a good idea to let Howe “bring in a few players”

[Whitley mag]

11 hours ago, Cf said:

 

No actual fan of NUFC speaks like this. 

Wanker

[AyeDubbleYoo]

43 minutes ago, Zero said:

I ain’t sure whether it’s a good idea to let Howe “bring in a few players”

It’s certainly not a good idea to not bring in a few players. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 hour ago, TRon said:

Also I imagine we might end up selling Tonali or any other player who the big clubs are targeting. That will mean more funds to spend, but whether we will be able to improve on the back of that is another matter. 

We can only sell maximum one good 

player IMO. The idea that everyone should just be waved goodbye because we had one dodgy season is silly to me. They can suck it up and do better next time. 

[TheBrownBottle]

5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We can only sell maximum one good 

player IMO. The idea that everyone should just be waved goodbye because we had one dodgy season is silly to me. They can suck it up and do better next time. 

It’s FFP and the likely desire for players to leave for pastures new that will drive it, nowt else. 

[Cf]

29 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Wanker

 

You're the one who said you don't give a fuck about our first CL knock out game, not me. 

[TRon]

10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s FFP and the likely desire for players to leave for pastures new that will drive it, nowt else. 

 

Exactly. The last thing we need is a repeat of last summer when we tried to dig our heels in with Isak. If players want to leave, then depending on their contract length, we just get the best deal possible. We can't keep living in dream land. 

[El Prontonise]

1 hour ago, jackyboy said:

Eddie looked absolutely gutted yesterday and looked ready to walk away. 

 

I didn't see that at all.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

Exactly. The last thing we need is a repeat of last summer when we tried to dig our heels in with Isak. If players want to leave, then depending on their contract length, we just get the best deal possible. We can't keep living in dream land. 

The Isak situation was absolutely crazy - and I still think Howe wanted to get shot much earlier (remember that prematch PC for the Celtic friendly when he was talking about wanting players who wanted to play for us?  Howe doesn’t strike me as the sort of manager who wants arseholes tantruming in his camp). 

[Yorkie]

4 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Exactly. The last thing we need is a repeat of last summer when we tried to dig our heels in with Isak. If players want to leave, then depending on their contract length, we just get the best deal possible. We can't keep living in dream land. 

 

I think we did exactly that, at the cost of it coming extremely late in the window. If we'd accepted Liverpool's first offer in a July - which was way below his market value - we might have been better positioned to sign replacements and plan for the season ahead, but there would have been absolute uproar. Plus it would've signalled to everyone else that we're easy sellers, weakening our hand in future windows and essentially inviting Tonali et al to manufacture moves as soon as they fancy it. 

[Cf]

14 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I think we did exactly that, at the cost of it coming extremely late in the window. If we'd accepted Liverpool's first offer in a July - which was way below his market value - we might have been better positioned to sign replacements and plan for the season ahead, but there would have been absolute uproar. Plus it would've signalled to everyone else that we're easy sellers, weakening our hand in future windows and essentially inviting Tonali et al to manufacture moves as soon as they fancy it. 

 

I agree with basically everything you have to say on the subject but do have a hypothetical for you. A number of us were on board with just letting Isak sit in the reserves.

 

How do you think the season looks now if we do that and don't spend £100m on Elanga and Wissa?

 

(I know, we signed Elanga quite early but still an interesting thought exercise imo)

[Yorkie]

11 minutes ago, Cf said:

 

I agree with basically everything you have to say on the subject but do have a hypothetical for you. A number of us were on board with just letting Isak sit in the reserves.

 

How do you think the season looks now if we do that and don't spend £100m on Elanga and Wissa?

 

(I know, we signed Elanga quite early but still an interesting thought exercise imo)

 

I think it's as unlikely a hypothetical as saying Lamine Yamal rocks up at Benton demanding to play for free. It was just never going to happen.

 

But to play the game I'd picture us signing no strikers, with him either continuing not to play, or being brought back into the fold - demonstrating something close to or worse than the form he showed for Liverpool. 

 

Either way it's worse for us than the reality. Woltemade and Wissa don't look like successful signings so far but there's still time, and we'll use the money to invest again in that position imo.

[TRon]

27 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I think we did exactly that, at the cost of it coming extremely late in the window. If we'd accepted Liverpool's first offer in a July - which was way below his market value - we might have been better positioned to sign replacements and plan for the season ahead, but there would have been absolute uproar. Plus it would've signalled to everyone else that we're easy sellers, weakening our hand in future windows and essentially inviting Tonali et al to manufacture moves as soon as they fancy it. 

 

We shouldn't have sold at all unless we were happy with the replacements. That was never in our plans until he forced the situation, but we handled it badly. Either we should have agreed to sell him earlier at the right price, or told Liverpool no deal until next year. It wasn't the ultimate decision to sell, it was the timing which was disastrous. 

[OoOGazOoO]

Just listening to his post-match press conference from yesterday and his comment, "I still feel we are capable of scoring goals at anytime", I couldn't disagree with you more Eddie, infact in my opinion, it's the exact opposite.

[Maggies]

We should do what Dortmund does - set a fixed price with a fixed deadline that gives us time to get a replacement.

 

If it doesn’t happen then we don’t sell.
 

Backing down on Isak 2 days before transfer deadline was the stupidest thing we did.

[Yorkie]

5 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

We shouldn't have sold at all unless we were happy with the replacements. That was never in our plans until he forced the situation, but we handled it badly. Either we should have agreed to sell him earlier at the right price, or told Liverpool no deal until next year. It wasn't the ultimate decision to sell, it was the timing which was disastrous. 

 

I just don't agree at all and never will. My take is that we were between a rock and a hard place and yet miraculously got £130million out of Liverpool despite the player pulling every trick he could to drive his value down to £0.

 

The disaster is Wissa's output. If he enters the fold and provides half of what he did for Brentford last season, the season looks completely different.

[SUPERTOON]

It’s hard to see it getting any better without a massive overhaul in the summer. Are people expecting to see that ?

[Turnbull2000]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We can only sell maximum one good 

player IMO. The idea that everyone should just be waved goodbye because we had one dodgy season is silly to me. They can suck it up and do better next time. 

 

That's not really our choice though, is it? The breakaway six already did a job on us last summer by taking our best player and denying us our main targets. If they offer to double the salary of the likes of Tonali, Tino and Hall, plus more confidence of CL football, it's not worth keeping them if they demand out.

[Danh1]

4 minutes ago, Maggies said:

We should do what Dortmund does - set a fixed price with a fixed deadline that gives us time to get a replacement.

 

If it doesn’t happen then we don’t sell.
 

Backing down on Isak 2 days before transfer deadline was the stupidest thing we did.

But then you keep a player who has made it clear publically he won’t play. His value depreciates and the player is hanging around like a dark cloud, all media attention on him etc. 
 

It was a horrid situation, I don’t blame the club for selling but we do need to learn from it. We looked weak because of the way we handled it in the build up to selling him.

[Kimbo]

9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

It’s hard to see it getting any better without a massive overhaul in the summer. Are people expecting to see that ?

I keep thinking about the reports last summer of Howe wanting to keep Callum Wilson. I’m also not sure how much our transfer team and policy has actually changed other than adding another body. I was hoping to get an idea in January but we did nothing. I’m hoping for a good overhaul rather than expecting one.

[Mikky]

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

It’s hard to see it getting any better without a massive overhaul in the summer. Are people expecting to see that ?

Dont think it’s a case of expecting, it’s a case we must 

 

There are so many holes in our first XI team and in our squad - too many have overstayed 

 

Vlachadimos - Ruddy - Gillespie - Ramsdale - all must go 

 

Promote Harris and Pope is no2

 

Krafth and Trippier are surplus 

 

Keep one of Schar/Burn and buy 1 CB to compete with Thiaw and Botman

 

We need a RB and LB cover and to compete 

 

Willock needs replacing 

Murphy needs replacing 

Wissa needs replacing 

Osula needs replacing 

Woltermade back to Germany with Bayern

 

4 first Xi players are a must - GK CB RW CF - then 2 full backs - CM and CF with potentially a young FWD too

 

Its a massive rebuild due to 2 consecutive ineffective summer windows 

 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, Mikky said:

Dont think it’s a case of expecting, it’s a case we must 

 

There are so many holes in our first XI team and in our squad - too many have overstayed 

 

Vlachadimos - Ruddy - Gillespie - Ramsdale - all must go 

 

Promote Harris and Pope is no2

 

Krafth and Trippier are surplus 

 

Keep one of Schar/Burn and buy 1 CB to compete with Thiaw and Botman

 

We need a RB and LB cover and to compete 

 

Willock needs replacing 

Murphy needs replacing 

Wissa needs replacing 

Osula needs replacing 

Woltermade back to Germany with Bayern

 

4 first Xi players are a must - GK CB RW CF - then 2 full backs - CM and CF with potentially a young FWD too

 

Its a massive rebuild due to 2 consecutive ineffective summer windows 

 

The two most important positions in football are the CF and GK - if we go into next season with an untested kid as first choice then literally everyone at the club would deserve to be fired. 

[Zero]

18 minutes ago, OoOGazOoO said:

Just listening to his post-match press conference from yesterday and his comment, "I still feel we are capable of scoring goals at anytime", I couldn't disagree with you more Eddie, infact in my opinion, it's the exact opposite.

 

He is right. He just didn’t say we are also capable of losing goals at anytime 

[Mikky]

@TheBrownBottleSorry I meant promote Harris into the squad - Reisser from Lens is my first choice keeper

 

 

Edited March 1 by Mikky

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, Mikky said:

@TheBrownBottleSorry I meant promote Harris into the squad - Reisser from Lens is my first choice keeper

 

 

 

Got you  thought you’d gone crackers for a minute there!